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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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check it out..i got my motor back together on friday night, fired it up and let it run for about 10 minutes. Its loud as **** running out the header with the killers so i lifted it up and put a rag over the collector to quiet it down. I listened to the head and everything sounded good. The next morning I changed the oil and filter and took it on the street to see how it felt, everything was cool. I pulled it back into the shop and got out of the car with it idling. Thats when i heard a ticking noise (like a really loose valve) so I lifted it up and put a rag over the collector again and heard the noise coming from the oil pump area. So I turned the car off and started checking it out. I noticed that my timing belt was extremely tight. So I loosened the tentioner bolt and to my suprise the tentioner moved about 1/8" down and the belt was still tight with very little play on the intake side. So i tightened the tentioner and started it back up and the noise went away.

Im thinking the belt was so tight that it was pulling the crank upwards at an angle and causing the oil pump to make noise...i mean thats the only thing i can think of.

My question is has anyone had a timing belt tighten up on them like that? if thats even possible.


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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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hey, how do you tighten anyway? is it that 19 bolt on the bottom of the block? i just put in my motor today but my head is makin really weird noises and im not likin it. help me out alright
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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Ive tightened the timing belt too tigth once.. and it made a real loud squealing type sound..
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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mine is extremly tight right now, and i get alot of resonance in the belt, it hums..


i wonder if making it so tight increases the chance of it failing due to stretch/shear
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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it'll sound like a blower motor if it's too tight. like a winding noise.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecb20coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it'll sound like a blower motor if it's too tight. like a winding noise.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is exactly right.

to adjust it, loosen the belt tensioner, and re-tighten it to the factory torque spec. this is the factory mandated procedure for "adjusting timing-belt tension".
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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alright, i dont get it, will someone explain to me briefly how exactly to tighten this timing belt because my head makes alot of noise when i turn my engine on. also, can someone help me step by step how to bleed the clutch?
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Tighten the timing belt:

Put your motor to TDC.
Lossen the 14mm bolt on the cam gear side of the motor. You will see a little plastic tab on the timing belt cover (look right in the middle) to lift up to gain access to this bolt.

Loosen the bolt. You should notice the belt tension loosen. Now rotate the crank so the timing belt so that 3-5 teeth have moved along the top of the cam gears.

Now retighten the tensioner belt and rotate the crank a few times with a 19mm socket to ensure everything is still lined up.

BLEED YOUR CLUTCH:

Take off your master cylinder cap

Lossen the 8mm bolt on the end of your slave cylinder. (Tip of the item mounted to front of your tranny)

Depress clutch pedal and lift back up by hand. Keep depressing and constantly recheck the clutch fluid level in the resovoir to make sure it never runs dry whil eyou bleed the clutch. Repeat this as many times as necessary until all air bubbles are gone.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Default Re: weird noise (Rusty Shackleferd)

What belt are you using ?
OEM, TODA, Power Ent. , Greddy ?

I use to run Toda, which is the same as the other above except an OEM one.

for some reason a non OEM seemed to create a resonance sound. This is once reason I switched back to OEM .
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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I used to use TODA and now I will only use OEM. I think the TODA/PE/Greddy ones stretch after time.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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im using oem
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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thanks man, i appreciate it, and im gonna try it, ill let you know if i have any problems. this swap is takin me forever.
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