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why not have cars run in closed loop all the time and vary the a/f ratio by computer?

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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Default why not have cars run in closed loop all the time and vary the a/f ratio by computer?

why dont people use closed loop for racing. For example, set the ideal a/f ratio to be whatever (12:1~13.1:1) and have the ecu adjust in real time? Or why not have manufactured cars use closed loop all the time; in WOT, have the car dialed at a richer mixture, but cruising at 14.7:1 but always remaining in closed loop with a wideband o2 or something?
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Default Re: why not have cars run in closed loop all the time and vary the a/f ratio by computer? (duh black

Power.... the only time a stock engine will come out of closed loop (after it warms up) is wide open throttle. Closed loop is not designed for optimum power... its designed for acceptable power and lowest emissions.... however at WOT emissions are of little concern, and the engine dumps as much fuel as possible, based on a fuel curve/map. This is a predetermined amount, and it is very rich, and gives the most power possible.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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Default Re: why not have cars run in closed loop all the time and vary the a/f ratio by computer? (duh black

But if you have a closed loop at WOT, you wouldnt need to have your engine tuned for whatever changes you make to your car since your car can make adjustments on its own?
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Default Re: why not have cars run in closed loop all the time and vary the a/f ratio by computer? (duh black

some people dont just drag race. there are alot of people on here that do nasa/scca road racing events and most of the timr we are wot but alot of the time we are 75% or less through turns. but i get what you say
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Default Re: why not have cars run in closed loop all the time and vary the a/f ratio by computer? (duh black

if you have a turbo charged car, at partial throttle, is it safe to have a 14.7:1 a/f ratio?
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