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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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i was wondering if vtec-e(d16z1) is better for autox than vtec(d16z6)? i have those motors in there b/c those are the motors in the cars i might get. would the z1 make power quicker and then be better?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Right now you'd still suck even if you were driving an Enzo.

You might want to actually start driving at an autox before you ask questions. Couch racing with your 400000 hp 100 lb Civic is fun, but in the real world you have to learn how to control and use what you have.

You are concerning yourself with details you shouldn't be worrying about.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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You can autocross anything. Worry only about driving.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outrun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can autocross anything. Worry only about driving.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Even this...



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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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All kidding aside you CAN autox anything. HAHA

http://www.bolhuijo.com/autox/
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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man that is pretty dang good for the firetruck to get only one cone! i went to an autox sunday with my brother and after everything was over and all the cones were picked up, but the lines were still there some guys put there car on there trailers and took there tow vehicles w/ trailers around the lines going pretty fast,take fast turns,and squelling there tires. it was so funny. i keep asking q's b/c i want to plan ahead kinda and not think that i should have bought something else.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94accordsedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right now you'd still suck even if you were driving an Enzo.
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Try to be a bit more constructive......
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94accordsedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right now you'd still suck even if you were driving an Enzo.
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That's a retarded statement, some people have to work at driving a lot less then others....
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94accordsedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right now you'd still suck even if you were driving an Enzo. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i understand what he is meaning. u can't really think that u are going to be a great driver.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by george34 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i was wondering if vtec-e(d16z1) is better for autox than vtec(d16z6)? i have those motors in there b/c those are the motors in the cars i might get. would the z1 make power quicker and then be better?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Power doesn't really matter. I autox in civic 95 vx and did very well.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94accordsedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right now you'd still suck even if you were driving an Enzo.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but if he doesnt have a car yet he may as well get the car hat will serve him best once he is good.

in your instance he may suck for an enzo, that's no rason not to drive one if it's avaliable to him over, say a 91 civic sedan.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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[QUOTE=Safir]

but if he doesnt have a car yet he may as well get the car hat will serve him best once he is good.

that what i'm trying to get at.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Let's put it this way.

Jeremy Clarkson drove a Jaguar S-Type around Nurburgring in 1:59.

A professional race driver took a Ford Van around the Ring in 10:08

So sip on that a little while.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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AutoX and Curcuit are two different thing.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:52 AM
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Its my belief that instead of spending 8 hrs researching what car to get one could spend those 8 hrs driving which would yield better results.

This kid has made countless posts wanting to know if a &gt; b &lt; c &gt;= d and if engine swap 1.1 is better than 1.4, etc. To me that sounds almost like someone wants the super swapped blingified rice car that will see 1 or 2 autoxes. (Kinda like the guy in the Sentra last weekend who was listening to his super cool rap cd which taking a cruise around the course, did that 6 freaking times.)

Get a car, after a year or two when you have reached the max potential of the car consider another one. Or you could spend 2 years researching the best car and then spend another 2 years working on your driving.

My 2 cents, for whatever its worth.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 04:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA9 Integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let's put it this way.

Jeremy Clarkson drove a Jaguar S-Type around Nurburgring in 1:59.

A professional race driver took a Ford Van around the Ring in 10:08

So sip on that a little while.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So... what's your point?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:16 AM
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It's all about driver skill.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA9 Integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's all about driver skill.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I understand that.

So if you were going to give a comparison like that, shouldn't the professional driver have turned a faster time in a slower vehicle?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA9 Integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's all about driver skill.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your analogy or whatever you want to call it makes no sense.

10:08 sounds like a slowish lap on the Nordschleife, 22.8km.

1:59 sounds like a lap at the Grand Prix circuit at Nurburgring, which is 5.148km.

How can you compare these two? Not even the same track.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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He made a typo. Jeremy turned a 9:59, while Sabine in the van turned a 10:08
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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Big typo.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Autocrossing is definetly about the driver mostly. But also having power in the right place at the right time doesn't hurt either. Alot of times i see hondas having trouble get power when they need it because they can't keep their RPMs up high enough to be in the powerband.
But also there is a guy were i race that has like a 89 Prelude thats bone stock with race tires out and he out run the majority of people that race.
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