is it worth gettin ur DP...turbo housing...and manifold cermaic coated...i live in mesa,az their is a company called HPC down here....they said it should reduce engine bay temp's like 40% .....it's like 300 bux to get it all done..should i do it

 

why not just heat wrap everything or buy the turbo wrap kit. Other than water getting in there an rusting i think it would be worth wrapping

 

Just spend 10 dollars and buy some automotive ceramic paint.Coat all those puppies up and start the car to bake it on.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cloner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just spend 10 dollars and buy some automotive ceramic paint.Coat all those puppies up and start the car to bake it on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is not the same. might help with rust but not gonna keep much thermal insulation temps from dp and mani...

I had mine HPC coated in phx and it was like 180 for dp and mani/wastgate parts and turbo housing.(6 parts all together)... I don't know the exact temps it lowered in my bay. I do know my engine was running a lot cooler than before it was coated... Oh and it looks cleaner imo but after a bit the coating discolors because of the heat. This only happened on the manifold.

 

Ive use it and it works.Its called 1200 degrees It comes in white or black keeps temps down alot.Dont knock it till you tied it.

 

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Have you actually compared the two? Why do all the top race teams send their turbos, exhausts, manifolds, ect to HPC instead of the easier/cheaper method you suggest?

 

Its just spray paint, it doesnt have insulating properties.

 

thx for the quick reply's...i'm with dasher...i'm goin to HPC ..i talked to them and their really nice their...turn around time is 5 biz days at the most under 300 for everything..and it will reduce bay temps like 40%

 

I would coat the mani and maybe the exhaust housing of the turbo (I did)

But I would wrap the downpipe with the dei exhaust wrap that everyone else uses. This stuff actually does more than the thermal coating.

I am personally also going to get an turbo blanket from places like boostlogic.com, I think that will help more.

 

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Ceramic coating is worth it, but you won't see a 40% reduction in engine bay temps. It might be up to 40% in certain applications but not standard.

I have my tubine housing , manifold and DP ceramic coated inside and out.

 

Anyone try the newer ceramic powder coating? how is this stuff? I wanted to try it but I also don't want to waste my time useing it if it sux. https://www.pendrypowdercoatin...26199

 

I feel sorry for you then for paying that much.Have you tried 1200 degrees?
Its not your typical spray paint.Its a ceramic coating in a can.Btw It looks like charcoal flat coating.You have to bake the parts for atleast an hour.I tried other stuff but this stuff is great doesnt look all that great but it works.Its not better than Hpc but a cheaper option.

Or you can do it the right way if you have the equipment.
http://www.nomorerust.com/highheat/headers.html I tried this stuff and its just as good as any shops ceramic coating and only costs $29 so go ahead and spend $300 for nothing.

 

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Hmmm...talked to my friend on Powder coating...They bake most of there items at 400 degrees for an hour...(manifold temps get up to 1200+)

this new ceramic coating didn't post the specs of heat range so I wouldn't think it would be a good replacement to HPC coating.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cloner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I feel sorry for you then for paying that much.Have you tried 1200 degrees?
Its not your typical spray paint.Its a ceramic coating in a can.Btw It looks like charcoal flat coating.You have to bake the parts for atleast an hour.I tried other stuff but this stuff is great doesnt look all that great but it works.Its not better than Hpc but a cheaper option.

Or you can do it the right way if you have the equipment.
http://www.nomorerust.com/highheat/headers.html I tried this stuff and its just as good as any shops ceramic coating and only costs $29 so go ahead and spend $300 for nothing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I do think your stuck on a cheap method of ceramic coating.. but hey let me say this famous quote once more...

"You get what you payed for"

 

The black coating I forget the name "Hiper Extreme" or something is good very expensive but has been proven to work well. NASA use it.

 

what about useing the ceramic spray paint, the 1200 degree stuff, and then wrap it with exhaust wrap, the coating would be to prevent rusting.

Would this work to help the rusting situation people get when wrapping?

 

Prior to coating my manifold I used a high temp paint which immediately began to peel after I started the car for the first time. The reason I coated my manifold is because I noticed the hood(OEM) of my car was begining to warp after hard driving... I sent my manifold to Swaintech to have it coated for around $175 and wrapped the DP with thermotec. Looking back I would have had the turbo housing done for cosmetic reasons. But in terms of function I can say with absolute certainty that it is a drastic change in underhood temperature. A plus is it is also supposed to help with exhaust scavaging effects due to keeping exhaust gas temperatures higher which in turn increases exhaust velocity. Swaintech only offers the coating in a pearlized white which made me nervous at first, but suprisingly it does not get dirty.

 

LOL What you pay for is labor.You pay their price for the coating plus labor.Also the stuff in the can does not peel.You have to read the instructions bake at a certain degree for a certain amount of time then put it on your car and start it up for the final bake. READ THIS AS TO WHY WRAPS SUCK http://www.centuryperformance.com/heatwraps.asp

The 1200 degree paint looks exactly like your exhaust manifold.Comes only in white or black.I know its not the same but look sjust like it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cloner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL What you pay for is labor.You pay their price for the coating plus labor.Also the stuff in the can does not peel.You have to read the instructions bake at a certain degree for a certain amount of time then put it on your car and start it up for the final bake. READ THIS AS TO WHY WRAPS SUCK http://www.centuryperformance.com/heatwraps.asp

The 1200 degree paint looks exactly like your exhaust manifold.Comes only in white or black.I know its not the same but look sjust like it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The only reason I wouldn't attempt doing it at home is the fact that right now I'm living with my parents for the summer and my mom would murder me if I put car parts into her oven.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cloner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I feel sorry for you then for paying that much.Have you tried 1200 degrees?
Its not your typical spray paint.Its a ceramic coating in a can.Btw It looks like charcoal flat coating.You have to bake the parts for atleast an hour.I tried other stuff but this stuff is great doesnt look all that great but it works.Its not better than Hpc but a cheaper option.

Or you can do it the right way if you have the equipment.
http://www.nomorerust.com/highheat/headers.html I tried this stuff and its just as good as any shops ceramic coating and only costs $29 so go ahead and spend $300 for nothing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, I'm familiar with and have used many different paints and ceramic coatings. I have used Dupli-colors High Temp "ceramic" 1200F spray paint and Hy-tech Metal shield ceramic paint.

I'm aware that I can purchase ceramic coating and heat my components in a kiln. You have to be careful when doing this because if it is applied to thick or the surface isn't prepped correctly it will tend to flake off. I'm not going to stick my Manifold(it wouldn't even fit) or Turbine housing in my oven either, that's where i cook my food!

It is cheaper and more convenient to have the professionals do the work for me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cloner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL What you pay for is labor.You pay their price for the coating plus labor.Also the stuff in the can does not peel.You have to read the instructions bake at a certain degree for a certain amount of time then put it on your car and start it up for the final bake. READ THIS AS TO WHY WRAPS SUCK http://www.centuryperformance.com/heatwraps.asp

The 1200 degree paint looks exactly like your exhaust manifold.Comes only in white or black.I know its not the same but look sjust like it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just baking it doesn't gaurentee adhesion. Its the prep work. Part of the labor you pay for is having the peice sand blasted then chemically remove any oils. Then they have the correct guns to spray with and bake the part for you. I agree, they are a business and the point is to make money, but having all there equipment on hand saves you the time and hassle to have it done right. If you had to buy a sand blasting kit, the chemicals, ceramic coating, and oven to bake (the correct way) its going to cost you much more than $200-300.

 

I'll second that... I paid for the preparation of my manifold... the proper stripping etc. and the peace of mind of knowing if it starts to flake THEY will be fixing it for free...

 

From HPC website



My pistons and valves are being coated with their Thermal barrier coating as I write this. I'm going to send my manifold and housing soon too. Great for keeping underhood temps down while improving spool up.

 

If you are only going to do it one time then I would have someone else do it.
We powdercoat stuff on our own and have the stuff to do coating. Investing in a powder to try would not be bad, we have the rest of the stuff. Even if it didn't work out right, i could just do it again and wouldn't have to send it back to who did it the first time and wait for it to come back.
I'm a fan of a polished/ceramic look on and header/turbo manifold. I might order some of this coating to try it.

Redwidow
What tests didn't it pass? any more info on this?

 

I wouldnt do pistons or valves myself dont really think they need it.Doing headers and exhaust turbines is easy for me.To remove the oils you use a propane torch not chemicals.Then you can sandblast it or use sandpaper(takes a long time) Then wash it throughly with dish soap let it dry not much prep work really.Im just the type of person who does everything myself I like to learn.Only thing I ever take to get done is machine work.I havent taken my car to a shop in 10 years.

 

i'm rebuildin my motor sleevin and everything...dasher you would get ur pistons coated?.....i'm rebuildin for longevity..