ls/vtec- question and hp goal
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ls/vtec- question and hp goal
Ok I just bought a 91 Da with a obd-0 b16 in it. It was just put in so im thinking it has around 75,000 on here. About 2 months ago I bought a complete b18b engine with 60k. So I figured since im getting rid of the turbo stuff that Ill try ls/vtec. From my research I think I pretty much have everything. but wanted to make sure by posting and getting replies from the ls/v guru's.
-b16 head( distributor,alt)
-b18b block
-pr3 ecu from b16
-b16 oil pump, and water pump
-timing belt
-pr3 pistons(put me at 11:4:1)
-ls rods
the only thing that I dont have that I know of is the golden eagle kit, gsr arp head studs and maybe some new rings, and bearings
Im trying to get around the 190-200whp range but not really sure how realistic those numbers are. Ive heard it can be done on OEM products with a good tune. What can be done with the b16 obd-0 ecu?? and is 190-200 realistics or is more stuff needed??
what are some things to know that wasnt mention about the ls/vtec
-b16 head( distributor,alt)
-b18b block
-pr3 ecu from b16
-b16 oil pump, and water pump
-timing belt
-pr3 pistons(put me at 11:4:1)
-ls rods
the only thing that I dont have that I know of is the golden eagle kit, gsr arp head studs and maybe some new rings, and bearings
Im trying to get around the 190-200whp range but not really sure how realistic those numbers are. Ive heard it can be done on OEM products with a good tune. What can be done with the b16 obd-0 ecu?? and is 190-200 realistics or is more stuff needed??
what are some things to know that wasnt mention about the ls/vtec
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Re: (numbnuts22715)
thats bassically just a simple LSVTEC set up. i honestly dont think that will put you in the 190-200WHP. i've seen a few dyno slip with people with set ups like that. .GSR head onto LS block.. LS rod, P30 pistons (slightly higher CR then yours) and they dyno at around 160WHP. if you want to get into the 190-200, you will need to look into some head work. if you got aftermarket valve springs and retainer and some agressive cams, and tuning. you'd be in the 200WHP range
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Re: ls/vtec- question and hp goal (turbo90lude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbo90lude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok I just bought a 91 Da with a obd-0 b16 in it. It was just put in so im thinking it has around 75,000 on here. About 2 months ago I bought a complete b18b engine with 60k. So I figured since im getting rid of the turbo stuff that Ill try ls/vtec. From my research I think I pretty much have everything. but wanted to make sure by posting and getting replies from the ls/v guru's.
-b16 head( distributor,alt)
-b18b block
-pr3 ecu from b16
-b16 oil pump, and water pump
-timing belt
-pr3 pistons(put me at 11:4:1)
-ls rods
the only thing that I dont have that I know of is the golden eagle kit, gsr arp head studs and maybe some new rings, and bearings
Im trying to get around the 190-200whp range but not really sure how realistic those numbers are. Ive heard it can be done on OEM products with a good tune. What can be done with the b16 obd-0 ecu?? and is 190-200 realistics or is more stuff needed??
what are some things to know that wasnt mention about the ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
you need a ls head gasket. timing belt must be gsr or itr to match the 22 tooth water pump. dont forget arp rod bolts. you will also need something to tune with like a vafc or hondata.
the set up you listed is basically a stock more with up compression. stock cams stock head. so dont expect much power at all. expect anywhere from 150-160whp.
you sais your selling your turbo stuff why???
your much better off just turboing the b16. it will be much faster than you lsvtec setup. i have a 200whp in my da and let me tell you its slow as **** compared to any turbo honda.
full weight integras are too heaver for all motor
everyday i kick myself for not going turbo. even you stock b16 with any turbo will be much faster and way more fun to drive that your stock lsvtec with only up c0mpression
-b16 head( distributor,alt)
-b18b block
-pr3 ecu from b16
-b16 oil pump, and water pump
-timing belt
-pr3 pistons(put me at 11:4:1)
-ls rods
the only thing that I dont have that I know of is the golden eagle kit, gsr arp head studs and maybe some new rings, and bearings
Im trying to get around the 190-200whp range but not really sure how realistic those numbers are. Ive heard it can be done on OEM products with a good tune. What can be done with the b16 obd-0 ecu?? and is 190-200 realistics or is more stuff needed??
what are some things to know that wasnt mention about the ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
you need a ls head gasket. timing belt must be gsr or itr to match the 22 tooth water pump. dont forget arp rod bolts. you will also need something to tune with like a vafc or hondata.
the set up you listed is basically a stock more with up compression. stock cams stock head. so dont expect much power at all. expect anywhere from 150-160whp.
you sais your selling your turbo stuff why???
your much better off just turboing the b16. it will be much faster than you lsvtec setup. i have a 200whp in my da and let me tell you its slow as **** compared to any turbo honda.
full weight integras are too heaver for all motor
everyday i kick myself for not going turbo. even you stock b16 with any turbo will be much faster and way more fun to drive that your stock lsvtec with only up c0mpression
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Re: ls/vtec- question and hp goal (turbo90lude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbo90lude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
b16 head( distributor,alt)
-b18b block
-pr3 ecu from b16
-b16 oil pump, and water pump
-timing belt
-pr3 pistons(put me at 11:4:1)
-ls rods
the only thing that I dont have that I know of is the golden eagle kit, gsr arp head studs and maybe some new rings, and bearings
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Power steering bracket from a gsr
Oil line from the block to the head
cam gears
exhaust system w/high flow cat
you need a fuel regulator due to LS VTEC set up running rich
Ill try and think of more
b16 head( distributor,alt)
-b18b block
-pr3 ecu from b16
-b16 oil pump, and water pump
-timing belt
-pr3 pistons(put me at 11:4:1)
-ls rods
the only thing that I dont have that I know of is the golden eagle kit, gsr arp head studs and maybe some new rings, and bearings
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Power steering bracket from a gsr
Oil line from the block to the head
cam gears
exhaust system w/high flow cat
you need a fuel regulator due to LS VTEC set up running rich
Ill try and think of more
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Re: ls/vtec- question and hp goal (ALMXDUPINTEGRA)
I jsut cant afford turbo right now. I had turbo on my 1990 prelude and I ran into so many problems. Im really trying to get away from the speed. I want speed but I want to know that when I crank my car up in the morning and beat on it I dont have to worry about anything breaking. Ive turbo before and all i did was work on it day in and day out. just dont feel like dealing with that right now. Maybe in the future.
Would it be wise to just throw some 12:0:1 pistons in the 16 and build the head to get 180-190hp??
Would it be wise to just throw some 12:0:1 pistons in the 16 and build the head to get 180-190hp??
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