ok guys I currently have a JDM B16A with I/H/E and cam gears, but I want something with more power and for a fair price, I dont want to go the GSR or Type R way cause thats what everyone has, I was wondering if an H22 swap would have more power.

I have done a few searches but cant really find the answers Im looking for.

has anyone done this transition, from B16 to H22? if so was it worth it power wise?

Thanks

Marc

 

Man.... your B16 has 160 Horsepower. The H22 has 160 Torque.

I don't think you should do the H22A swap though.

Obviously you are so stupid you can't understand that a lot more power will make your car faster. I don't think you will be able to handle the power of the H22A.

And you can't the find the answers?
What answers are you looking for???
There's a thread with just 1/4 mile times for H22's in Civics.
People have posted dyno results.

 

Look pal, Ive done my research and I know that the H22A has more power/torque but its also alot heavier and I have looked at 1/4 mile times and Ive also noticed that the EG's with an H22 are running about high 13's where as the B16's are running mid 14's. Im just trying to figure out if its worth the investment.

So if your going to run your mouth to someone who is just trying to get some info then F-OFF!

 

chill out man. you haven't done your homework. this topic has been beaten to death - regs like RottiEater have seen this topic a zillion times so his response is understandable.

H22 is not a lot heavier than B16. H series makes so much more torque throughout the powerband the extra weight means nothing. 1/4 mile times don't tell the whole story because the torque of the H series gives it a much different character than the extremely peaky B16. makes a huge difference on the street, where you don't want to have rev to 8000 to get your car to move.

you could probably trade your motor for an H22, maybe throw in a few hundred bucks to sweeten the deal. then you gotta buy mounts, axles, ecu, and some other little crap. that'll run you about $1000 if you get HAsport mounts and custom axles, less if you get cheaper mounts. if you do all the work yourself it might be worth it. if you're talking about taking it to a shop, I really doubt it would be worth it.

you're really asking a subjective question so nobody can give you a definite answer.

you could just boost the B16...


Modified by dreamer at 11:37 AM 7/5/2005

 

IMO, get a bigger b series motor, so you can reuse the mounts, axles, etc. The install will be so much easier than converting to H.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knowles_101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look pal, Ive done my research
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Then why are you asking questions that would be answered through simple research?

And Dreamer is right about everything he said though.
It's hard to say what is exactly better, because everytime the discussion comes up it turns into a C5 vs H22 debate.

 

b16a h22a


speak the truth kabir!!! look at my stock dyno numbers.....letsd see how much money u put in your b16 to get tio that HP alone....i had a built b16a2 in a hatch and my stock h22a in my ferio will destroy it every day all day, but it sounds like u need to just stick with your 16

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knowles_101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok guys I currently have a JDM B16A with I/H/E and cam gears, but I want something with more power and for a fair price, I dont want to go the GSR or Type R way cause thats what everyone has, I was wondering if an H22 swap would have more power.

I have done a few searches but cant really find the answers Im looking for.

has anyone done this transition, from B16 to H22? if so was it worth it power wise?

Thanks

Marc</TD></TR></TABLE>if you really need to ask these types of questions then you should REALLY stick to the B16. I understand you need to start somewhere but with these kinds of question tell me your not ready for the H.

 

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speak the truth kabir!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

**** you!!! You don't know me nikka!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastwanabe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you really need to ask these types of questions then you should REALLY stick to the B16. I understand you need to start somewhere but with these kinds of question tell me your not ready for the H.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RotiEatter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't think you should do the H22A swap though.
Obviously you are so stupid you can't understand that a lot more power will make your car faster. I don't think you will be able to handle the power of the H22A.
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dude dont make me come up there

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H series makes so much more torque throughout the powerband the extra weight means nothing. 1/4 mile times don't tell the whole story because the torque of the H series gives it a much different character than the extremely peaky B16. makes a huge difference on the street, where you don't want to have rev to 8000 to get your car to move.

you could probably trade your motor for an H22, maybe throw in a few hundred bucks to sweeten the deal. then you gotta buy mounts, axles, ecu, and some other little crap. that'll run you about $1000 if you get HAsport mounts and custom axles, less if you get cheaper mounts. if you do all the work yourself it might be worth it. if you're talking about taking it to a shop, I really doubt it would be worth it</TD></TR></TABLE>

There thats what I was looking for

Thanks man

 

If you like torque than the h22 is the way to go but if you like that high rev I would stick with a gsr. Either way you can sell the complete b16 swap and get a different engine for your car. What i did was sell my b16a2 for $1900 and a spare complere ls swap I had around so basiclly I got the h22 for free. I got the tranny, motor,ecu, hasport mounts, hasport axles and plus shipping from hmotoronline for $3k. Since I did the swap myself, i think its worth the invest in the h22 for me.

 

Yes my eg goes 13.2@101 stock motor with I/H/E& computer program. H-series all the way!

 

b16 = noob h22 = 1337 its that simple

k thx

 

just to give you some info on price for everything.
I got my motor and Hasport mounts form a member here for $2500 with LSD.
And i had jeff from hybrid automotive install my motor for 1200-1400 dont remember the exact price. I wanted every perfect so i could get my BAR sticker later.
Final price was $4200.
In my opinion it was well worth it. I have had zero problems, very clean swap.
With the car i found for $2000 omly came to $6200. HAHA all insurence money.
P.S. i had a b16 crx and it is nothing like my h22. soooo much easier to drive every day and faster.
But i got use to the power and now i want something faster.

 

Yup i transitioned from a b16a to a h22a in an EG about 4 years ago. Much faster and MUCH more fun to drive. However the h22a tranny was horrible. The cables were sloppy and the gears ratios were too long for my taste. Id recommend looking into a b series tranny conversion plate.

besides, after owning the 2 engines, id go for a b20vtec over both of em hands down.

good luck

 

the H22A swap isnt for everyone. its a more harder swap then the b-series and from the info you have given i doubt your swaping the motor in, so just sell the b16 long block and keep the tranny and slap in a b18 so you can use the parts you have already. OOORRRRR you can boost.

BTW you didnt search hard enough. this topic have been covered so much. its even a sticky in the civic forum.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yup i transitioned from a b16a to a h22a in an EG about 4 years ago. Much faster and MUCH more fun to drive. However the h22a tranny was horrible. The cables were sloppy and the gears ratios were too long for my taste. Id recommend looking into a b series tranny conversion plate.

besides, after owning the 2 engines, id go for a b20vtec over both of em hands down.

good luck </TD></TR></TABLE>

really? i always wanted a longer 5th for freeway. although h22 is long compaired to my s1 tranny, holly short gears batman. hah

 

You'll be nothing but happy with the decision just start making arrangments now and you can thank me in advance

 

I've done the b16 to h22 swap that you are talking about. More HP more TQ. It's obviously going to be faster. Even if the H22 is "heavier". It would only be 100lbs at the most according some people (which it isn't really 100lbs).

 

My friend was just asking me about this same setup. Be different than everyone else and try the H22. Be prepared for a headache!