high idle after master cylinder swap!?!

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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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i just replaced my master cylinder with a remanufactured one. bolted everything together and started the car, and the idle quickly shoots up to 3k, and it wont go any lower

*edit* car is a 91 civic std, DPFI

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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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look for a vacuum leak
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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probably a vacuum leak at the booster, your mc might not have had a gasket on it or your old gasket stuck to the booster and there are 2 on now
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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When I replaced my MC I had strange idle problems like you mentioned. What I found happened in my case was that the leaky, old MC had leaked brake fluid into the brake booster which destroyed the seals.

I new booster fixed my problems.
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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i knew there was a gasket that went in between there....duh

thanks for the help dudes.
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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no, no gasket... i had a bad leek between my mc and booster... i replaced them both while i was at it, but there is no gasket you can just buy, sorry
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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so your saying there is no gasket that is supposed to go there?

why is there such a huge vacuum leak then?
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Here is a image of the brake booster.

http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/C...5.pdf

If there is air leaking around the MC where the brake booster meet then you have a leak in your booster from the leaking brake fluid.

I think a replacement booster is about $70.

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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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there is no air or fluid that transfers between the booster and the MC. There is just a shaft! there are vaccum tubing around there. Look around your throttle body too. I know I disconnected one while changing mine. When I put my hand down on the valve cover knocked off one. It is like chris said if there is air comming out around there then you have a leaky brake booster. You can usually hear the air by stomping on your break petal.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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when you replace the MC you wil lose the Vac in the booster. just let it run for a little to build vac.

If you had no vac in the booster your brake would be a brick.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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i have a hissing noise under the hood, it is around the area of the booster/mc, i figured replacing the mc would fix this.

now when i start the car, the hissing has gotten worse and now i have a monster vacuum leak

before replacing the hissing noise was quite loud, and you could hear it when the brake pedal was pressed while bleeding the brakes (motor off)

so basically i need a booster?
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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Is your brake peddle a brick???? Hissing, I would say yes, you do need a new Booster.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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the is 1 rubber seal between the master and booster. if you have none or two of them in there...you will have a vacuum leak.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egtwincam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the is 1 rubber seal between the master and booster. if you have none or two of them in there...you will have a vacuum leak.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup. Your mc should have come with a new one. If you have two and put the new one on top of the old one the mc won't sit flush causing the leak.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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okay, so there is a seal between the booster and m/c?

i didnt get one with the reman unit nor did one come off my old m/c...im confused??
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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So the old one is probably still there. You should check its condition. A new one should have been provided to you with the reman unit.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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did you replace the vaccum hose that runs to the booster? usually there is one on there.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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im guessing i need part #9??

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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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bump, before i replace the booster
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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when you change your master....the seal is usually stuck on the brake booster side. clean it up and youll see. FYI: its very unlikely that your brake booster is bad. ...unless you drilled a hole in it.
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