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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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did a search for hot restart and got 1 thread, the TW sensor i am assuming it is the temp water? well i swapped it out with the one that came out of the dx engine, still the same thing.

car will not start hot. starts fine cold, but will not restart hot and misses throughout the power band up till about 4000 then ir revs fine. if you smash the gas, it falls on its face, if you slowly bring it up through the band it goes fine. i am out of bullets on this car. i can not figure it out. please help me.

replaced:
dizzy with another and a brand new one
cam sensor with another used one
water temp sensor
plugs
fuel filter
tps twice
ecu with a pm6
fuel pressure regulator has good fuel pressure anyway
iat with the dx iat
map sensor
like i said i am out of ammo, and darts. any help again is appreciated.


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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Default Re: zc swap no start. (boostedcivicsir)

wow, my car does the same exact thing.

try the air intake temp sensor. its on the drivers side of the intake mani, change that. Mine was a dx to zc also. it gets real hard to start when its cold outside. also turn the key on acc. then turn it so it goes to turn the starter over, but then let off right away, so the starter begins to kick over but let off before it tries to fire. do that 10-15 times. and try to start it. it wont ruin your ****. i have done it for 8 months and my car runs good as hell when it warms up. Most of all change the air intake temp sensor.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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not to be negative, but this is a customers car and the way to start it you expressed will not fly with someone that is paying to have this car start right. i am in the process of installing the third set of injectors. there is no fuel on them at all thats why i think it is a delivery problem. there is 35 psi rail pressure so. i am sorry i am at the point of throwing darts. and i hate being that way. thanks for the help nonetheless.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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third set of injectors and will start cold takes a **** load of cranking, but will not start hot.

bump .please.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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did u reverse the tps wires ? might want to doubble check. and the dizzy wiring too . and the Cam angle sensor, if its s dohc zc
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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didnt have to re wire dizzy, everything plugged in and did reverse the tps wires.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 05:26 AM
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sorry sir. i did not kno it was a customers car.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91whiteZCrex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry sir. i did not kno it was a customers car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

isallgood man dont worry.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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did you fix it yet anyways? cuz if you did let me kno cuz mine still does that **** when its cold
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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i have a new dizzy and cam angle sensor coming from my engine supplier. thats the last dart i have.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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up please.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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I believe the distrbutor or the cam angle sensor(can't remember which on the zc) sends a signal to the ecu and then the ecu will pulse the injectors. Did you make sure the cam and ignition timing is set correctly?
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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yeah initial timming is spot on. it ran fine for 30 minutes then crapped out. car has good compression too so the belt is on correctly.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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bump please.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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to the top please.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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up please.
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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anything?
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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have you tried a different ecu ?

check to make sure there is gas in the car (ive done this before)
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFbomb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you tried a different ecu ?

check to make sure there is gas in the car (ive done this before)</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have tried a PG6 88-89 integra and a chipped PM6 both have same result,
i know there is gas in the car because it doesnt do this cold. also get this, when it will not restart, carb cleaner or ether makes NO difference. figure that out. but it has spark.
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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try replacing the IAT(intake air temp) sensor, even a brand new one might not be a bad idea, they arent to expensive@the dealer if i remember right.

ad for the starting fluid not popping the car off a coupple times makes me think that it is definately spark related. cam angle sensor on a ZC is on the exhaust cam, and im 51% sure that it controls injector timing, as for ignition timing, i would say it is prolly tdc inside the dizzy.
take the fuel rail out, while still plugged in/in the rail(my injectors stayed inthere when i tired this, but i held them tight on the rail), pull the pllug on the dizzy, and turn the key, see if all the injectors spray. This will answer your fuel problem.

im gunna call IAT on this one.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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i did the rail trick, and the IAT that is on there is off of the dx and it is doin the same thing. the dizzy was replaced with a reman still the same, i cannot get another cam angle sensor because they are a little pricey.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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i need help to mine starts but only when i hold the gas down and it starts for seconds then dies
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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up again please.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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back from vaca bump please.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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bump please.........
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