which one do you think will win, and which one would you start as a project?
include your reason why you decided on your choice and any comments welcomed.

 

i think b18 because it has extra .2 displacement lol i don't htink theres much difference..

 

I might be new here but on forums all over the world Bench racing is a no no. There are way too many varibles motor health, weight of car, driver. tires silly things.

 

what is bench racing?nvm i noe now

 

okay how bout this then both crx's have all stock interior and power options and what not, also they are both a DX the drivers weigh 150lbs, and both motors have 70,000 miles on them and the ls is 94-95 obd1 and the b16 is out of a 99-00 coupe so obd2 and the b16 tranny on the LS motor has 30,000 miles on it and both engines run real good.

 

If the cars are even, the b18b would win.

 

bump

 

i think b18b, its cheaper when you add everything up too

 

In a 1/4 mile drag, B16A. The B16 just has so much more top end. In the 1/8 mile, I have no doubt that the B18B would win.

 

ok im new, not just to honda tech but to cars in general, but correct me if i am wrong b18b = 130hp b16a2 - 160hp. if the only diff is the motor then i would assume the b16 would smack the panties off the b18.... ummmm but then again i am wrong alot

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davidu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ummmm but then again i am wrong alot</TD></TR></TABLE>

WERD.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davidu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b18b = 130hp b16a2 - 160hp.
ummmm but then again i am wrong alot</TD></TR></TABLE>

B18b = 142hp


Stock for stock its going to be close.
I chose the B18b because (a)it was cheap and (b) I don't have to rev the living snot out of it to get any power while driving on the street. Of course I'm running a B16 y1 tranny. If I was running a LS tranny, I would be answering differently.
More torque rules.

 

b16 = 110-120 trq
b18b = 140ish trq

 

http://crx.honda-perf.org/math/index.html
Play with the calculator to find RPM ranges for both B16 and B18 with the selected tranny

Get Torque curves for both engines in the power ranges

factor in vehicle weight
you should get somewhat of an educated answer

BUT also factor in that not all B18 or B16A's produce the same POWER

This beats listening to **** wars about My homies B16 this and My dawgs B18 that.

Buncha fhags

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In a 1/4 mile drag, B16A. The B16 just has so much more top end. In the 1/8 mile, I have no doubt that the B18B would win.</TD></TR></TABLE>Having owned a Civic with LS and B16a tranny with 4.785 and lsd, I would definietly have to say that the LS will smoke the B16a. Anotheredhatch on here, has just an LS tranny and can hang with a b16a until around 95 or so. I never ONCE had a problem with a B16a and barely had issues with a GSR swap.

 

b18b = 130 hp
b18b1 = 142 hp

or so i am told. i have never dyno'd one myself

 

I think the b18a is the one thats rated at 130hp?

 

If the b16 is healthy i'm pretty sure it'll get the b18 in 3rd gear vtec

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88 Crx Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the b16 is healthy i'm pretty sure it'll get the b18 in 3rd gear vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>I'm pretty sure it wont until around 110.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Skinflute22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think b18 because it has extra .2 displacement lol i don't htink theres much difference..</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are an idiot....tons of differences
1st one is vtec the other isn't
one has .2 l more displacement
one has 20 more hp
one has 20 more ftq
pistons are different
strokes are different
one has an oil cooler
one has 7mm taller deck

they both share same oilpan, oil pump, mains, main bearings....that's about all they have in common....other that both are aluminum....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96integsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay how bout this then both crx's have all stock interior and power options and what not, also they are both a DX the drivers weigh 150lbs, and both motors have 70,000 miles on them and the ls is 94-95 obd1 and the b16 is out of a 99-00 coupe so obd2 and the b16 tranny on the LS motor has 30,000 miles on it and both engines run real good.</TD></TR></TABLE>


car weight equal, equal drivers, equal mods....


b18 with b16 tranny will walk circles on a b16 with b16 tranny....

have done this same thing....equal cars....
one with ls and b16 stock header
other b16 with b16 tranny with header....

ls pulled 2-3 cars to 115mphs!!!

changed drivers....SAME RESULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

don't believe me....then GO DO IT FOR YOURSELF YOU TOOLBOXES!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In a 1/4 mile drag, B16A. The B16 just has so much more top end. In the 1/8 mile, I have no doubt that the B18B would win.</TD></TR></TABLE>


NO the LS will win in 1/4 too..... you don't know crap

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx_88_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 = 110-120 trq
\ </TD></TR></TABLE> more like 100-112!!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88 Crx Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the b16 is healthy i'm pretty sure it'll get the b18 in 3rd gear vtec </TD></TR></TABLE> hope that was meant to be funny.....cause that is not the case....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davidu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok im new, not just to honda tech but to cars in general, but correct me if i am wrong b18b = 130hp b16a2 - 160hp. if the only diff is the motor then i would assume the b16 would smack the panties off the b18.... ummmm but then again i am wrong alot</TD></TR></TABLE>

you assume wrong

LS with b16 tranny!

 

OMG......i am soo tired of these things being started on this forum.....you should just figure out what you want your car to do...add up your money, and see what you can afford

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx_88_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 = 110-120 trq
b18b = 140ish trq </TD></TR></TABLE>

um, no...try 127 ft lb @ 5,200 rpm


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davidu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
b18b = 130 hp
b18b1 = 142 hp
or so i am told. i have never dyno'd one myself</TD></TR></TABLE>

jeez...quit pulling figures/engine designations out of your ***
B18a = 130 hp

 

thanks for all the answers and comments. i was leaning towards b18b w/b16 tranny in the beginning but now im positive thats what im going to go with, i am also getting more bang for my buck it seems like, and if i ever wanted to make it vtec its just a head ecu and oil line away, with some other modifications.

 

no way you can beat the allmighty b16!

LS &gt; b16 hyped up lack of *****.

what do I know I I like GSRs