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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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http://oem.overnightautoparts....y=All

Oxygen Sensor - $435.81

Oxygen Sensor OE Connector - $352.11 (Not sure the difference between this and the top one)


^^ That or this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW

JDM Spec D16 ZC SOHC 1.6L Engine

Complete Head and Block

This engine comes used, but has been classified with less than 35K miles and includes our unlimited mileage warranty for SIX (6) full months.


Or if you guys decide on something else that is less than $1000 and can direct me to it, much appreciated.

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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Wow that price for an o2 sensor is ridiculous, you could get a wideband for that price. Go to a junkyard and get a stock one.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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Yeah go to the junkyard.
Especially because you have obd1, becuase from what I hear, obd2 you can't use used o2s...but don't quote me on that.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 04:31 AM
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San Leandro Honda has it for $302.78.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 05:34 AM
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OEM replacement o2 sensors are 60 or less for a brand new DENSO or NGK unit from sparkplugs.com , with no splicing
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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Make sure you're talking about the same O2 sensor we are talking about. There are two types - the 5-wire wideband (which he asking about) and the more common 4-wire narrowband which generally cost about 60 bills. Yes, the LSU4.2 wideband sensor is pretty cheap...around 60 or so as well - but that sensor isn't compatible with Honda ECUs.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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for that price it may be worth looking into a y8 swap. i picked one up for 400, with 70k on it. look around local for one. id rather get a new engine then spend 300 on an o2 sensor for a shitty engine.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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I'm going off what EE_Chris pointed out since the first link doesn't work for some reason. Which is an O2 for a VX. (36531-P07-003)

search Ebay, I see that O2 go on there for ~$120.

If you can't find one search for a NGK L1H1 or NGK L2H2, it's the same sensor.


Don't beleive?
http://www.plxdevices.com/M-Series_productinfo.htm
second to the last pic.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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Get a universal one, and wire it yourself.........Only around $85
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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http://www.oxygensensors.com

I don't know how much a 5 wire wideband is on there, but I ordered the universal 4 wire for cheap for my Y8. It was about $150 - 200 cheaper than the OEM from SanLeandro (the cheapest OEM price I found).

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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EE_Chris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Make sure you're talking about the same O2 sensor we are talking about. There are two types - the 5-wire wideband (which he asking about) and the more common 4-wire narrowband which generally cost about 60 bills. Yes, the LSU4.2 wideband sensor is pretty cheap...around 60 or so as well - but that sensor isn't compatible with Honda ECUs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah they had a wire listed instead of the 5, give them a call you never know

edit*yeah 423 when you search by honda part#, you could prolly get a whole vx engine from someone for close to free people are always ripping them out for swaps * if not you could probably get a complete sohc vtec swap for that price*
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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http://www.oxygensensors.com
thats where i get mine from.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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So should I just go ahead and get myself a 4 wire O2 sensor and do exactly what this write up says?

http://hybridautomotive.com/tech/o2/#seven

I don't want more problems then what I already have. So if you guys know of any problems for this conversion, please reply back.

Or get a Bosch one from AutoZone for $166.99? I can get the 4 wire cheaper, so going the cheaper route would be the best for me.

Or maybe I'll search locally for a used engine. Still, MPG is going to be in my mind.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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just go to autozone and get a denso for 60 bucks.... $435.81? thats way to ridiculous .. peace
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 04:00 AM
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How have you come to believe that using a 4-wire O2 sensor would even work with the Vx/Hx ECU? It doesn't - they aren't compatible and there is nothing you can do to try and make it work.....unless of course you do not have this ECU, so do you?

Your initial post asking about a $400 sensor can really only imply one sensor type for a Honda - so I"m assuming you do indeed have a Vx or Hx.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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I don't know all that much about the vtec-e motors, but how about this idea. It makes sense that he could get a used p28 ecu and then use a regular 4-wire o2, right? It'd cost &lt;$200 to do this, and if nothing else, would require just a few pins moved.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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http://www.sparkplugs.com

Go wild.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Thanks for trying to help. But they only have the California 4 wire models. Anyone that may have one laying around or know where to get one locally cheaply?
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EE_Chris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How have you come to believe that using a 4-wire O2 sensor would even work with the Vx/Hx ECU? It doesn't - they aren't compatible and there is nothing you can do to try and make it work.....unless of course you do not have this ECU, so do you?

Your initial post asking about a $400 sensor can really only imply one sensor type for a Honda - so I"m assuming you do indeed have a Vx or Hx.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">search Ebay, I see that O2 go on there for ~$120.

If you can't find one search for a NGK L1H1 or NGK L2H2, it's the same sensor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're not going to find it for any less than on Ebay right now.
Used - $50 - 7984191943
New - $85 - 798381896
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