Can't figure out this UEGO wideband.... HELP!!
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Well finally I got a wideband and I have no idea how to install it. My uncle works at Chrysler so he got a me a free wideband. The controll unit says it's a UEGO TC-6000 and the harness is UEGO TH-2009. There is no gauge to show the a/f ratio so I'm clueless as to where to hook it up. I searched for uego products and it came up with nothing. All I can say is that there are 4 cables and they all connect into one harness on the controller. There is of course the oxygen sensor (5 wires), a ground, a power, and another wire with a pin it (it's the first left one in the last pic). I think that might be for datalogging somehow. If anyone knows how to hook this up and use it properly, Please help. HERE ARE THE PICS....


3 wires coming out of the controller? Run the ground to a ground, the power to a switched 12v source, and the other is most likely the signal wire. You'll need to know the sensor info to know what a change in voltage on the signal wire equates to in air/fuel ratio so that when you data log you can then convert the signal voltages into lambda or A/F numbers. What are you planning on hooking this up to?
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That's the thing. I don't know what I can hook this up to. I was thinking of buying a screen or something but have no idea how I can. That's why I was wondering maybe you guys could help me. There are 4 cables coming out. The 4th cable on the left is the one I have no idea what that's for. It looks like it would connect to something to collect the data, but I don't know what that could be
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figured it out. The wire on the left is an analog out wire and it's 0-5v. So now can anyone recommend anything that can read that in lambda or a/f ratio? or somehow connect to the laptop in uberdata so I can datalogg it. Also when I choose the O2 port on uberdata which product should I choose because I don't know which products matches the 0-5 voltages from the one i have now.
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you can hook tohe analog 0-5v to the o3 sensor input on the ecu then datalog in uber, as far as which one to pick. i dunno, i gues try to find the company that made it and see if they havea conversion chart
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well i keep finding out more stuff. I can choose zeitronix on uberdata because their signal is from 0-5v as well. But now as far as a gauge to see the a/f, I wonder how I can do that??? ANYONE know?? Is there a way I can make a screen or something??
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Dont get the Zeitronix if you plan on using it within Uberdata. Last time I checked they were still having trouble converting the Zeitronix's parabolic voltage into AFR numbers so you can use it with UD's datalogging. You should just get a Innovate LM1 or a PLX300, because they have linear voltages which is easier to setup for use in UD. That's why the LM1 and PLX300 are already supported by UD, but the Zeitronix is stil being worked on. About the gauge, check with your widebands manufacturer and see if they sell add on AFR gauges. Innovate sells a 2 1/16" gauge that you just wire up to the LM1 controller and it will display your AFR's.
Dont get the Zeitronix if you plan on using it within Uberdata. Last time I checked they were still having trouble converting the Zeitronix's parabolic voltage into AFR numbers so you can use it with UD's datalogging. You should just get a Innovate LM1 or a PLX300, because they have linear voltages which is easier to setup for use in UD. That's why the LM1 and PLX300 are already supported by UD, but the Zeitronix is stil being worked on. About the gauge, check with your widebands manufacturer and see if they sell add on AFR gauges. Innovate sells a 2 1/16" gauge that you just wire up to the LM1 controller and it will display your AFR's.
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The thing is that this wideband was taken from the Chrysler Testing Grounds so I don't know for sure what company it is. It says NGK spark on the controll module and it doesn't look like they have any gauges. I have no idea what I can do.
Also when you datalogg with uberdata which wire do you plug into the laptop? I think it's the analog one but then what happens to the gauge when the analog wire is connected to it.
Also when you datalogg with uberdata which wire do you plug into the laptop? I think it's the analog one but then what happens to the gauge when the analog wire is connected to it.
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Also when you datalogg with uberdata which wire do you plug into the laptop? I think it's the analog one but then what happens to the gauge when the analog wire is connected to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The way you should be hooking it up is the wideband controller will have a wideband AFR output or wideband analog AFR output. This will connect to your wiring harness for pin D14 which is your stock primary O2 sensor. D14 on the ECU normally reads the stock narrowband signal, but you are unplugging your stock O2 sensor, replacing it with a wideband and now the wideband signal is going to pin D14 and the ECU.
You also have to hook up your wideband controllers 12V power source and the ground. For the ground I hear it is best to use the ECU ground which is pin A26. My LM1 plugs into the cigaretter lighter for it's 12V source, but if you have to wire yours in somewhere use pin A25 which is the ECU 12V power.
You are then supposed to solder in a datalogging cable into your ECU at the CN2 connection. You can use the Nokia cell phone cable 3285/5185, most other cell phone cables, or a "superdroids" cable (contact bigwig). The datalogging cable will either be a USB plug if you use something like a cell phone data cable or a serial plug if you use a superdroids cable (I think it's serial). Now when you plug in your datalogging cable into your laptop for the first time, you need to make sure he correct device driver is loaded up. Then from there you set your COM connection ports for the datalogging cable in the Windows device manager. Then you go into UD and select the correct COM port for your datalogging cable, and set up your wideband. Once your wideband is setup in UD, you can go to the datalogging tab and see your AFR ratios, but it wont be correct unless you put in the right voltage to AFR numbers in UD.
Here is some more info on setting up your ECU for datalogging:
http://home.mn.rr.com/keebler6....html
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1
EDIT: on the Snail Tuning thread, even though he uses a Zeitornix Zt-2 he doesn't use it in Uberdata (unless he changed his setup. Last time I checked he used the Zt-2's datalogging software.
Also when you datalogg with uberdata which wire do you plug into the laptop? I think it's the analog one but then what happens to the gauge when the analog wire is connected to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The way you should be hooking it up is the wideband controller will have a wideband AFR output or wideband analog AFR output. This will connect to your wiring harness for pin D14 which is your stock primary O2 sensor. D14 on the ECU normally reads the stock narrowband signal, but you are unplugging your stock O2 sensor, replacing it with a wideband and now the wideband signal is going to pin D14 and the ECU.
You also have to hook up your wideband controllers 12V power source and the ground. For the ground I hear it is best to use the ECU ground which is pin A26. My LM1 plugs into the cigaretter lighter for it's 12V source, but if you have to wire yours in somewhere use pin A25 which is the ECU 12V power.
You are then supposed to solder in a datalogging cable into your ECU at the CN2 connection. You can use the Nokia cell phone cable 3285/5185, most other cell phone cables, or a "superdroids" cable (contact bigwig). The datalogging cable will either be a USB plug if you use something like a cell phone data cable or a serial plug if you use a superdroids cable (I think it's serial). Now when you plug in your datalogging cable into your laptop for the first time, you need to make sure he correct device driver is loaded up. Then from there you set your COM connection ports for the datalogging cable in the Windows device manager. Then you go into UD and select the correct COM port for your datalogging cable, and set up your wideband. Once your wideband is setup in UD, you can go to the datalogging tab and see your AFR ratios, but it wont be correct unless you put in the right voltage to AFR numbers in UD.
Here is some more info on setting up your ECU for datalogging:
http://home.mn.rr.com/keebler6....html
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1
EDIT: on the Snail Tuning thread, even though he uses a Zeitornix Zt-2 he doesn't use it in Uberdata (unless he changed his setup. Last time I checked he used the Zt-2's datalogging software.
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damn, sweet. Well I have 2 o2 bungs so I guess I won't have to wire the wideband to the ecu. As far as choosing the right wideband in UD, how would I do that if I don't know what company this is.
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If you dont wire the wideband into the ECU then you cant datalog from within Uberdata. The number of O2 bungs you have doesn't make a difference. Uberdata reads the ECU's narrowband signal but if you wired in your wideband then it reads the wideband signal instead and displays it on Uber. If you dont connect your wideband controller to the ECU at D14 then you cannot datalog from within Uberdata.
EDIT: the only way you can bypasss the ECU is if your wideband setup has it's own software and it can connect to your laptop through a USB, serial, or audio port.
About selecting the WB in UD, it only supports the popular WB kits out there. You would probably have to open up one of the files and add yours in along with your voltage to AFR conversion numbers. You'll probably want to ask one of the UD experts on how to do that (try bigwig on the UD forums).
If you dont wire the wideband into the ECU then you cant datalog from within Uberdata. The number of O2 bungs you have doesn't make a difference. Uberdata reads the ECU's narrowband signal but if you wired in your wideband then it reads the wideband signal instead and displays it on Uber. If you dont connect your wideband controller to the ECU at D14 then you cannot datalog from within Uberdata.
EDIT: the only way you can bypasss the ECU is if your wideband setup has it's own software and it can connect to your laptop through a USB, serial, or audio port.
About selecting the WB in UD, it only supports the popular WB kits out there. You would probably have to open up one of the files and add yours in along with your voltage to AFR conversion numbers. You'll probably want to ask one of the UD experts on how to do that (try bigwig on the UD forums).
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