Just wondering how the SMSP header compare to the ever popular and quality of Spoon and Toda headers...?

 

I would take the Toda over the Spoon anyday, but SMSP is more than a cut above both...

 

There is no comparsion......Dave's header will kill the other two.

 

Do a Search, tons of info

 

BTW---SMS will out perform both header's hands down

 

what the Toda poster boy said...

 

Toda header ... too bad you weren't at the races this past weekend ... an all motor civic h/b with 1.8 GSR which I built ran against a low 11 sec DSM AWD, Twin turbo FD3S and a B20 prepped Civic hatch with 150 shot ... beat all 3 of them ... when racing the FD3S second tiem after they pumped boost up to 21psi and upped ante to $1500, he snapped both front axles ... in 4th gear. Unbelievable midrange power since he put the Toda header on 3 weeks ago .. he had spoon 4-1 prior, ran low 12's with Spoon ... GOD knows what he runs now.

Hey MikeK bet you dont see races like that in FL, heh ... nice avatar ... you prolly never raced Kenji with his Toda cams, huh ? that lil country boy would have smoked you .. toda cams toda cams toda caaaaams LOL

Greg

 

Greg,

Maybe you can get that B20 prepped Civic hatch with 150 shot to come to your dyno day this weekend and straighten that car out? Something doesn't sound right there.

Can you post the dyno graph of the Toda equipped GSR in the h/b?

 

Greg, you obviously missed the sarcasm with the Calvin avatars for both JUN and Toda. I'm a fan of both. I currently have JUN cams in my car.. but I also have a set of Toda Spec A cams for my Integra. I've run Spec A's for like 2 years and I love them.

Kenji is a redneck. He knows that as well as I do.
Only so many things you can do in Plant City, FL. LOL.

 

JUN cams, JUN cams, JUN cams LOL

 

LOL. I know the Utah boys like JUN.

 

SMSP header compared to Toda is the like comparing the Jun cam to Toda. They both kick its *** all up and down the block with no end to the pain in sight.

 

forget all of those headers....pacesetter with crower cams...all day....teehee hee....
ibl

 

huh?

lol

what do you care? You've got a turbo!

I've got both, so come get some!

 

pacesetter hahahahahaha

 

Don't knock Pacesetter! In 96, before I got into all this import stuff like crazy, I had a 91 Prelude Si. Bone stock. Just a Pacesetter header and new NGK plugs.

Did 1 dyno pass in Tampa. 125hp/125tq. LOL.

 

Damn, I miss my Prelude SI...

Jason- who loved his 2.1L 1991 beast!

 

I had an 88 quelude si with the same header, It pulled hard until a hole rusted through it. I love that car though. I'm trying to buy it back to strip into a track *****.

 

sms,

actually, according to the owners of the 150shot B20 JUN stage 3 setup h/b, their car is all motor. The shop name is Top Secret here in NJ, the car is all motor supposedly yet there is the typical smoke which comes out of exh after they hit 3rd gear, a big bazzoka tube in the rear hatch whcih is fully stripped, no amp for the tube, stock honda tape deck radio. Before the race they would only open the hood to very few people to search car, when I goto the races, they refuse to open the hood for me ... so some insider said 150shot ... basically everyone knows they shoot, and they would never admit it cause they'll look stupid getting beat by a true 1.8L all motor car, the car runs street drags and breaks tires in 3rd gear when they hit the fumes... the engine revs jsut as fast as a turbo car ... but its all motor, yah right ... after the dyno day this weekend, I'll post a dyno chart of the other h/b with toda C's and toda header, which I built... if the owner approves.
Oh yeah, one time I caught them with the hood up, quick glance at the distributor shows it was retarded all the way ... for that to be in sync with cam timing you'd need a thick *** headgasket (which would lower the compression alot) in order to make up for that much timing retard ... guys in the street don't put these tech tricks to use cause they are ignorant, figure there are maybe 2 or 3 guys who would know what to look for, they know exactly who I am and would never dare open the hood for me to check cause I would make them look so stupid in front of everyone.

MikeK, trust me I'm just joking and just thought the avatars are both funny ... no knocking whether you like toda or jun, I just like bussing your chops cause you're a friend of milky man (kenji) ... and you're from FL where the Temp is like 70's compared to 20's here in NYC.


Greg

 

Haha, ok. It's cool. Milky man? LOL

 

NO COMPARISION AT ALL! SMS HEADERS WILL DOMINATE BIGG TIME OVER THOSE HEADERS

MIKE K- I FINALLY RECEIVED MY COMETIC HEADGASKET YESTERDAY THANKS!

SMS HEADERS


[Modified by AllMotorMaddness, 11:04 AM 2/13/2002]

 

Tests have shown the SMS header to be better than other production style headers. I think SMS and Hi-Tech are the best available.

 

j00 mean the one you had for two weeks??

 

Better? Very close on a basically stock ITR, So, I guess your technically correct. Now on a modified ITR, B20, ect., you are very correct.

 

I'm still waiting for someone to compare the Hytech and the SMSP.. I wanna see which one makes more power!