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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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i heel-toe daily. whether its slowing down to a stop or slowing down for a turn, i heel-toe. im addicted to it lol.

is this harmful to the car even if its performed correctly?
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Default Re: Too Much Heel-Toe Harmful??? (civicsrfasty0)

As long as your doing it properly there is no reason why it would be bad for the car.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tommymoose &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As long as your doing it properly there is no reason why it would be bad for the car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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I also am addicted to heal-toe. I do it everywhere, but this weekend I went karting with some 16 year old racing guru who was explaining to me that the way most people do it (including me) is bad for your clutch. They way i did it, and the way you probably do it to is in one fluid motion you brake, rev match and shift all with one clutch pedal.

The way it was explained to me was you need to double clutch downshift. Its better explained in the skip barber racing book (the name slips me) apparently when you only use one clutch depression your clutch is getting grinded away...slowly, but its added wear.

THe correct way is to clutch into neutral, not going from gear to gear and release the clutch. WHen you get to the actual point you need to rev up to, you press the clutch again, then rev up. It allows your tranny to separate from the clutch and spin without any added wear.

On a side note its estimated it takes 60,000 tries to get it down perfectly. So for every time you get in your car, try it the "right way" 3 times, and you should have it down by the end of the year.

Im sketchy on the details because i havent picked up the book yet... but thats the way it was explained to me. So if u want to read up def pick up the book... theres a ton of info on it that you wont regret reading.

Thanks
Eric
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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1: As long as the clutch is fully disingaged when you rev I don't see how it could be bad for it

2: Syncros mean that you don't have to double clutch. I find that often double clutching can be cumbersome, especially in a quick group of corners, or if something goes wrong and throws your rythem off. But, I do notice that double clutching is much smoother feeling than just rev matching.

I learned both, and now I can use both whenever.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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Wasn't there a thread about this not to long ago?
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM Factor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wasn't there a thread about this not to long ago?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, there's definitely some talk about it in here, as it relates to engine "braking" [sic]: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1289541
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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Double clutching = good.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Default Re: Too Much Heel-Toe Harmful??? (civicsrfasty0)

Might be harmful to you wallet as you burn more fas revving, haha. Still 2.63 a gallon in CA.
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