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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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first off the car is a 93 si, stock motor with 117k on it.

this afternoon i noticed my temp gauge was a little higher then normal on my way to get some food doing about 70ish on the highway. i didnt think much of it because its really ******* hot out today. after i was done eating i went to start the car and it took a second. then i heard a knocking come from the motor at a little more then 2krpm and the more i would press the gas the louder it got. i also noticed doing anything abouve 45mph on the way home would cause the temp gauge to rise way above normal so i would keep pulling over to keep it down. once i got into my town doing 30-45 the temp gauge stayed steady but still a little above normal. also the gas gauge was acting funny, as if i was on the gas all the way it would drop down then come back up but i never went above 3-4krpm... i also checked the oil since i am due for an oil change this week and it was a little lower then it should be so i put some in...

any help, suggestions, answers would be great. thanks


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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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anyone?
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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so i just went outside to check something and the car didnt start up on the first try. let it sit for a few second and tried turning it over again and it went no problem. the knocking, tapping sound seems to be coming from the middle/right side in the back so it sounds...
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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damn no help guys? maybe ill try posting somewhere else.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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still looking for help
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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I think your car is Possessed.......
im confused as well, I dont understand why the fuel gauge would act like that? does your coolant look like sludge?
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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The fuel gauge has nothing to do with this problem...Sounds like a headgasket...from personal experience...Did moisture come outta the exhaust after you finally got it started?
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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headgasket can cause knocking? i didnt check the exhaust, all i did was look back while driving to make sure no odd smoke or anything was coming out.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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Yeap...
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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wow didnt know that. im going to look morei nto it tomorrow morning, check the oil and what not.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowsinglecam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first off the car is a 93 si, stock motor with 117k on it.

this afternoon i noticed my temp gauge was a little higher then normal on my way to get some food doing about 70ish on the highway. i didnt think much of it because its really ******* hot out today. after i was done eating i went to start the car and it took a second. then i heard a knocking come from the motor at a little more then 2krpm and the more i would press the gas the louder it got. i also noticed doing anything abouve 45mph on the way home would cause the temp gauge to rise way above normal so i would keep pulling over to keep it down. once i got into my town doing 30-45 the temp gauge stayed steady but still a little above normal. also the gas gauge was acting funny, as if i was on the gas all the way it would drop down then come back up but i never went above 3-4krpm... i also checked the oil since i am due for an oil change this week and it was a little lower then it should be so i put some in...

any help, suggestions, answers would be great. thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

im not sure of your problem but just to clear something up... temp guages dont read hotter or colder whether its super freezing out or super hot... it maintains a predetermined temperature... if it gets hotter than that temp it cools it down, if it gets colder than the temp then it doesnt cool it as much...

not sure if you know how thermostats work or not... basically they have a wax peelet in them that melts at a pretermined temperature... when you start your car after letting it rest over night... it heats up quickly because no coolant is flowing... but once it reaches operating temperature that wax thing melts and coolant flows... if the engine gets too hot, thats when it kicks on the fan (which is usually only at idle)... then when you turn it off the wax becomes solid again...
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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wax?

dont think theres wax in a thermostat.. its just a spring... when metal heats up it expands.. and a spring because its coiled it wants to expand. but to expand it has to uncoil...

i dont believe a bad headgasket causes knocking noises... knocking noise could be your bearings in the crank (not likely though)... or your valves... or most likely your injectors (they click, and when they get old they get loud)...
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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wow theres so many damn things it could be, im hoping its something on the smaller side. thanks guys for the suggests/help. keep it coming
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Morning Call &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wax?

dont think theres wax in a thermostat.. its just a spring... when metal heats up it expands.. and a spring because its coiled it wants to expand. but to expand it has to uncoil...

i dont believe a bad headgasket causes knocking noises... knocking noise could be your bearings in the crank (not likely though)... or your valves... or most likely your injectors (they click, and when they get old they get loud)...</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/cooling-system8.htm

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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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wow i never knew it was wax.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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alright so after further looking at it the sound seems to be coming from one of the injectors??? but also there is def moisture on the exhaust...

headgasket and shot injectors?
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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headgasket from personal experience, it will get worse if you keep driving on it. I'm not sure about the knocking noise though but my guess would be a injector but you woulud throw a code if you had a misfire so i'm not to sure. Ill see if i can think up anymore **** but it seems that everybody mentioned it already
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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ok i took a short and shitty video of the sound, all i have is a shitty cybershot but you clearly get the sound so thats all that matters. im thinking/hoping its just the injectors... anyone know where i can host a video, its only like 255kbs or if i can send it to someone...
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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video up, hope it works
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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that sound rings a bell...

last time I heard that one of my conrods bent
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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well this blows
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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rod knock owns me. well thanks for the help guys
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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drive it til it breaks , then buy an aRRR
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