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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Ok i am just lookin for a little feedback. I have an 01-675 py that i am wanting to make a little faster. My current mods are AEM cai, Comptech Race header w/ testpipe, Comptech 9 lb flywheel, and ATS 4.9 final drive. I want to do a jrsc on low boost. I think that w/ the short gears and 5lbs or so w/ that bomb a$$ header it should be a screamer. I dont want to go turbo b/c that header is the shiznit. I know jrsc dont add a lot of hp but i dont need that much more, like 35-40 and it will be good. They are also fairly reliable in my previous experiences. Any feedback appreciated.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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why not cams,upgraded valvetrain and some tuning
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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A similar topic was just discussed.

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N/A header requirements != S/C header requirements
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">N/A header requirements != S/C header requirements</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, what works best for N/A wont work best for S/C.

Since you already have some very nice components for making a very nice N/A setup, why not try a set of cams and tuning. Buddy Club 3's are making great numbers on mild 1.8's.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REDLINEtypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only ITR guru's please respond!! </TD></TR></TABLE>


What kind of credentials are ya lookin for?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REDLINEtypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> bomb a$$ header</TD></TR></TABLE>

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REDLINEtypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the shiznit.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Is there a requirement to speak your lingo?

Not quite technical terms.

I'd personally suggest leaving it the way it is and just learning to drive it. But I'm biased and most likely Not the type of "Guru" you're lookin for.


I didn't know people still used BoMb455 & sH1Zn1T anymore.


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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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wassup h0meslice? dont you know what he be smackin bout y0
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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You will be disappointed in the JRSC setup on this car, the way it's currently setup. I would suggest you go with cams and good fuel management (EMS, Hondata etc.) It's cheaper and alot less hard on parts, more reliable and more fun in my opinion.

mikehonda: who's never been impressed by the headache boost
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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I have experience with various boosted ITRs since 1997 & highly suggest you do not use a JRSC on your ITR. I have seen nothing impressive with that combination, it is a compromise on your vehicle even when properly tuned. Your parts combination is not ideal for a supercharger either, a properly designed N/A header should not be used on a supercharged vehicle. to the camshaft and engine management combination. Once you have driven a properly tuned N/A ITR you will never do anything else. My experience has been once you boost the vehicle all you want is more boost, more boost on that supercharger just creates more heat, not more reliable power.


Modified by MGITR at 2:50 PM 6/25/2005
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikehonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will be disappointed in the JRSC setup on this car, the way it's currently setup. I would suggest you go with cams and good fuel management (EMS, Hondata etc.) It's cheaper and alot less hard on parts, more reliable and more fun in my opinion.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And on that topic there's/here's a set of spec B cams and Toda springs (as I understand it the springs are extra) that might be just what you're looking for to compliment that header.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1289550
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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As far as my description of things, dont knock it. I know more about these cars than 99% of you. I have been an Acura Technician for 3.5 years. I am very impressed with my header so i like to talk about it. 26 midrange hp on P1's dyno. I have ridden in many built all motor itrs and they dont impress me like boost does. I just think that a little boost and maybe a thicker headgasket will give me around 35 or so hp whick is the target i am looking for b/c anymore and i am gonna see some serious traction problems. Thx to all who gave me feedback and for those loosers who have nothing better to do than talk **** on a post that they know little about...
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Before you dismiss adding the cams instead of all that trouble with an SC just to get another 30 hp, talk to Yack at P1 about them vs. the SC for what you've got in mind. Ed
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REDLINEtypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any feedback appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What's the application?

There's pros and cons to the different forms of boost and NA as they pertian to whatever application you are looking to use the car for.

Just 30 or 40 hp can be accomplished all three ways.

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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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I have/had a jrsc boosted ITR and had a high boost JRSC LS, and now have a JRSC b16. All of which just sort of fell in lap, I didn't go out and look to buy these particular setups. IMO even after all the supporting mods and good tuning I am very UNIMPRESSED. They are a pain in the *** to get running well/properly and seem very tempermental depending on the weather. After owning and tuning them I would NEVER purchase another JRSC setup.

My friends all motor h22 ITR with just skunk2 stg 2 cams and a little bumped compression is just about the same quickness wise, but feels more lively and is way more fun to drive then my JRSC ITR was at 10 PSI (both cars were tuned).

Like everyone else has already said, I would save some money and just buy a set of cams and have the car properly tuned and I think it will be way more fun, and less of a headache.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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thx boys. Well survey says no SC. I have ridden in itrs w/ toda b's, jun 3s, toda c's and skunk stage 2's and i guess i was just lookin for a lil more w/o goin turbo. Well maybe i will just get NOS...... j/k i know what that does fast but wont last. Many of those setups. Ok i will see what i can come up w/. Preciate it.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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i love my turbo.

if youd ever ridden in a turbocharged ITR, youd probably be a believer.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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kamikaze header = good for blower

comptech race header = good for allmotor 1.8L

http://www.theoldone.com

There are potentially better solutions for you - depending on your wants/ needs.....


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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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You asked for an opinion in a public forum, so I gave you my opinion. "As far as my description of things, dont knock it." I was not knocking your description of things....I apologize if I came across that way. Comments like "I know more about these cars than 99% of you." will not get you far in life. I have been tuning imports for 11 years now and I am constantly learning, and running into people that know more than I do. Hell, I have meet people that have forgotten more than I know . Good luck with moding your ITR.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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Go all motor, you'll be happy you did. I have a very mild n/a setup that I am happy with. Get some cams and some tuning and you'll be set.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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Damn paper racers...
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REDLINEtypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as my description of things, dont knock it. I know more about these cars than 99% of you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

no you don't

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REDLINEtypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I have been an Acura Technician for 3.5 years.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and? there are plenty of people on here that are much more qualified than you

next time you want advice on something, don't start by saying you know more than everyone
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MGITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You asked for an opinion in a public forum, so I gave you my opinion. "As far as my description of things, dont knock it." I was not knocking your description of things....I apologize if I came across that way.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think he was referring to you. Just his response to people giving him a hard time for using slang.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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LOL just because you've been an Acura technician for "3.5 years" you think you know more than "99%" of the people here. LMFAO

Sorry man but I'm the Head Service Advisor at a Honda dealership, while most of my guys are amazing technicians there are still a few that couldn't tell their heads from their asses. Those are the guys that usually have the "I know EVERYTHING" bullshit mentality that you do.

Goodluck with your build young prodigy.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1999all_motoR_teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL just because you've been an Acura technician for "3.5 years" you think you know more than "99%" of the people here. LMFAO

Sorry man but I'm the Head Service Advisor at a Honda dealership, while most of my guys are amazing technicians there are still a few that couldn't tell their heads from their asses. Those are the guys that usually have the "I know EVERYTHING" bullshit mentality that you do.

Goodluck with your build young prodigy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, he is a good tech. We worked together at the Acura dealer here until he moved to SoCal recently for a better job opportunity. Our dealership's service dept. is currently ranked 13th in the nation for customer satisfaction, and he was one of 4 techs that made it happen. His point was that although he is new to H-T, he is not new to ITR's/Acuras in general. No need for anyone to get all butthurt over this.
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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I'm not a guru, but I'll throw my advice in anyways.

You say you have ridden in many NA built ITR's, and I'll take your word. You also say you like the boosted route better, through experience.

IMO, if you were to spend the large amount of money on a JRSC to only pull out 35-40, I'd do one of two things. You could take that money and build the motor up well and get some great tuning, or move towards a turbo. Perhaps its my bias against superchargers, but I personally think you will be spending way too much money to be gaining so little.

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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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thats right bitches, dont think you boys are over me by no means. I did not say i know more than all just most. Thanx Kenso for the backing, Kenso was my shop Foreman who scholed me on the ITR's. Dont dought me cause i am young but very good for my age. I just transfered from NC to a So Cal Acura dealer and already one of the better techs there. Y all these people on Honda Tech have to try to put people down i dont get it. I simply asked for advice and half of you jumped down my ***. O well hopefully soon to have a knarley setup to show you'll. Thx for the input and hatin.....
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