the insides are worn good on my azenis and i've got some es100's (step down, btw).

but the outsides seem to have some meat on them still and would be good for spare tires, etc...

has anyone mounted azenis wrong side out on purpose? maybe to daily drive on with a beater or something?

I'm going to try it.....!

 

Nothing wrong with it... but the orientation is designed for water dispersment. So for a daily driver... it'll work... but avoid RAIN

 

Yes, many times. In fact, we had that done yesterday to a set. No real problem with doing that.

 

I always wondered something about these tires. They arent directional, yet if you mount them on both sides, one side has the treads(rain channels) seemingly going in the right direction, while the other side seems to be in the wrong direction. Wouldnt this mean one side is hydroplaning while the other side is removing water like it should?

 

with azenis, you want to avoid rain regardless...

 

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It's weird "inside-outside" vs. directional is much like the yokohama paradas then... it's strange... though they seem to work in the rain too, I suppose it's just directing the water the other way?

back to swapping, I'd really like to turn them around and use the "outside" as well, since I'm pretty camber worn on the inside... I really wonder if they'd be all that bad, since on the other side of the car, they are rotating the same way already, it'd just be like switching sides, left to right.... hmm....

 

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I wonder if this is why so many people complain about the noise in azenis - caused by the tread. im sure someone has ridden in a car with directional tires facing the wrong way, or even 2 different kinds of tread patterns which are directional.- makes for alot more road noise

 

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I don't know why some people say this. I ran at Mid Ohio in the rain and they did fine. I was even able to run pretty much the regular dry line at speed. There was only one spot I was a little worried about and there was probably about 3/4" of flowing water and some gusty wind there and I think any tire I ran in those conditions would concern me.

 

Just make sure it's still worthwhile to pay mounting and balancing. For example, if you're paying $15/tire for mounting and balancing, but there is less than 20 percent tread left (not counting the part from the treadwear indicator bars down), then it's not worth it.

 

mount + balance = through a friend (typer76)

 

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I'm with hecklervtec on this one. The only time we use Azenis are for wet events or for transiting to a local autox without using the trailer

 

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Wow...up north, you guys get raped! I just paid $20 to have 4 azenis mounted on a different set of wheels. No sense in balancing them with the tread life they have and the fact that they're already pretty worn...at least not in my opinion.

 

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It has nothing to do with "up north" (although I must say, the provincialism expressed in your response is one of many reasons I'm glad I don't live in Texas ). In my experience, people all over the country pay pretty much the same prices for mounting and balancing - usually anywhere from $10 to $20 per tire. Sure, you can find a place here or there that charges more than that or less than that, but that's what you can expect to pay at most places pretty much everywhere from the Mexican border to the Canadian border and from the Atlantic to the Pacific. It is all one country, you know.

By the way, you don't seem to understand the principle behind citing an example to show how a mathematical calculation can be performed. I could have said, "For example, if you're paying $30 per tire in Texas for mounting and balancing, ..." and it would have been just as illustrative of how to figure out whether or not it pays to remount the tires.

 

Glad I can mount and balance my own tires