i currently have my supercharged R with a JDM DC 4-1 header, Carsound cat and flexpipe and T1R catback. Sounds great

i just picked up the resonated T1R test pipe, which i was going to install yesterday.

but...the kid i bought the header and cat from...welded the flex pipe, cat and header all together and cut off the flanges!!

so there is no real way for me to use the T1R test pipe with my current header, unless i welded them together, which i dont want to do because it's dumb and because i would have no flex in the entire system if i did that

SO, to get to the point....

i am buying a new header...

i want the best gains possible and i need it to fit onto the T1R testpipe and exhaust.
also keep in mind, i am still using PS and AC

headers i am debating between: Spoon 4-2-1, Mugen 4-2-1, T1R 4-2-1

i am leaning towards the spoon, but im not sure if either of the 3 are better than one another, or if there is another header that im not including in my decision making that i should consider...

i already searched a ton and it has brought me thus far

thanks for viewing

 

Read the great header test yet? (Maybe it's not up anymore, it got moved around from host to host a bit). Spoon > Mugen. Toda, others > **** but OUCH $$$. Still, talking 1-2 HP between Toda, Spoon, etc. MUgen -2 off that. 4-2-1 better for midrange, 4-1 better for top, but better keep it in VTEC or not much difference in 4-1. Do some searches and PM the others with JRSC. Not sure what works good with that, or if it makes any difference.

 

ya i saw that header post a while ago, just didnt remember seeing the T1R in there and i didnt know if the supercharger made a huge difference or not

although, i might just take the charger off and do NA, who knows

more feedback plz

 

The Great Header Test

 

The T1R would be the best choice for fitment considering you run the rest of the set-up. There are a couple guys local to me that run the whole set-up and they like it a lot. They're N/A though.

My friends dad; yeah, that's right, his dad, just got a JR supercharger installed, along with a header/exhaust, on his ITR. I'll ask him what header he's running.

If I were buying a header today I would go with the Toda. Based on what I've researched I believe it to be the best 'off the shelf' header available.

Other headers I've looked at are the Pro-Fab, Vibrant, J's and Spark Racing. Unfornately, I have not read any real testimonials on any of them.


I'm picking my car up from A&J Racing tomorrow morning. I can ask them their opinion on running the T1R header with a S/C.

Hope any of this helps

 

thanks!

but no spoon on that chart

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The T1R would be the best choice for fitment considering you run the rest of the set-up. There are a couple guys local to me that run the whole set-up and they like it a lot. They're N/A though.

My friends dad; yeah, that's right, his dad, just got a JR supercharger installed, along with a header/exhaust, on his ITR. I'll ask him what header he's running.

If I were buying a header today I would go with the Toda. Based on what I've researched I believe it to be the best 'off the shelf' header available.

Other headers I've looked at are the Pro-Fab, Vibrant, J's and Spark Racing. Unfornately, I have not read any real testimonials on any of them.


I'm picking my car up from A&J Racing tomorrow morning. I can ask them their opinion on running the T1R header with a S/C.

Hope any of this helps </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes thanks, let me know what you find out

 

No need for a flex pipe... I don't have one and I run the jimfab mounts without any problems.

From what I have heard the Kamikaze header is one of the best for a S/C motor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks!

but no spoon on that chart</TD></TR></TABLE>

Second header from the top:

JDM Spoon download --- View HP/TQ 187/ 138

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
From what I have heard the Kamikaze header is one of the best for a S/C motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Check out their "claim to gain" over the Kamikaze. It doesn't quite apply to the current situation but I thought I'd post 'er up for fun. This post "Spark"-ed my interest in the header.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1274741

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC231 Sean &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Great Header Test</TD></TR></TABLE>

Out of curiousity, does anyone know what other mods this ITR was running? It says he's very mildly modded, but doesn't list the mods.

 

spoon ground clearance isn't the greatest...

 

why not Toda?

 

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From what I have heard the Kamikaze header is one of the best for a S/C motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly what i was going to say........

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Check out their "claim to gain" over the Kamikaze. It doesn't quite apply to the current situation but I thought I'd post 'er up for fun. This post "Spark"-ed my interest in the header.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1274741</TD></TR></TABLE>

Man that's kinda wack they use the Kami header for a comparison....but whatever sells I guess....

I think the answer to your questions are on here:
http://www.theoldone.com/compo....html

Kami appears to be the best off the shelf header for S/C apps. as some members have already pointed out.

 

JRSC's like large and short primaries. Hence why the Kamakazie has always been a good choice, since it offers fairly large primaries that are very short, and its cheap.

Most of the higher priced N/A pieces available have large primaries, but they are LONG, which will in turn hurt the performance of your setup.

Didn't HyTech make a supercharger hedaer?

The best N/A header systems will not be the best for SC.

 

thanks guys!

right now i will have to decide if i want to keep the car SCed or go NA, im havin a tough time deciding

 

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exactly what i was going to say........

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Kamikaze

 

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Ditto.

If you're lower than stock you might want to consider otherwise or be extra careful all the time.

 

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Ditto.

If you're lower than stock you might want to consider otherwise or be extra careful all the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

is the spoon ground clearance any worse than the JDM DC 4-1?

im wondering in case i take the charger off

 

As far as comptech being better than spoon and mugen its not. That must have been the comptech long tube.

 

I do beleive that was the Comptech Race header..


My choice would be the Kami

 

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The best N/A header systems will not be the best for SC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hes right u know so wouldnt matter if i said moooooooogen or spoon