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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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I'm putting on my Type R intake manifold on to my b16a one of my sensors is being block by my fuel pressure regulator.. its on the right side of the fuel rail.. should I change it and how could I relocate the FPR?? should I use a different fuel rail?
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Let me guess...you're trying to use the 1st gen b16 fuel rail right?

You need a fuel rail from 94 or newer b-series. It relocates the fpr to the end of the rail (above the #1 runner) and will clear the iat sensor on the p73 manifold.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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well whoever I got this engine from was trying...so do I need a gsr?
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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i had same problem i bought a used one off ebay for ten bucks from a 99si, you can get stock rails for dirt cheap after someone upgrades to an aftermarket unit, oh also get the hose that goes from the fuel filter to the fuel rail for whatever rail you get, i got a 99 si one so it would fit right
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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I'd reconsider the type r manifold. The 2nd gen B16A (P30) intake manifold makes more power on a B16. I have tried both and have seen other dyno's proving this.

If your still stuck on the ITR part, and 94+ b series rail or 2nd gen b16 fuel rail will work fine placing the regulater away from the air intake temp sensor.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 02:56 AM
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well everyone has there opinion ya know, well I'm kinda going all type R anyways I also have the throttle body, valvetrain, CTR cams, and soon to come PCT pistons. I ain't really trying to make a race car just a nice quick daily ya know
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redED9Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well everyone has there opinion ya know, well I'm kinda going all type R anyways I also have the throttle body, valvetrain, CTR cams, and soon to come PCT pistons. I ain't really trying to make a race car just a nice quick daily ya know</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not stating an opinion, i'm stating a fact. The The type r TB and cams are fine as well if you change up the pistons. Going with a mush lees expensive P30 manifold has nothing to do with having a race car, it makes more power across the board for a car street drivin.

This board on these threads are here to help you, thats what i'm trying to do.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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I gotcha brother man...not really trying to shoot ya down doggie.. but from what I hear the TB and IM have bigger bores then the PR3 and P30 im, plus they will make better power with the CTR cams since the delivery of air is faster then the long runners of the b16a intake manifold
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 05:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redED9Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I gotcha brother man...not really trying to shoot ya down doggie.. but from what I hear the TB and IM have bigger bores then the PR3 and P30 im, plus they will make better power with the CTR cams since the delivery of air is faster then the long runners of the b16a intake manifold </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its true the the ITR TB is bigger (62mm), its only by a couple mm. The ITR manifold has shorter fatter runners that are great for hogh flow, but only really make a difference after about 8200prm where it has a small peak for about 1000rpm.
Ideally, if you bought an aftermarket TB, or had your stocker boared out and a P30 intake port matched, you would have the very best powerband besting the ITR part by a good 4-6hp across the board. The P30 manifold has long well designed runners providing a decent amount of lower end and mid range power which a B16 is so greatly in need of.
I have both manifolds for a b16 of mine, the 2nd gen B16 intake does work better overall.
As far as cams go, they will work great with any vtev b series regardless. Of coarse they work best on higher compression (the more, the better), and some cam gears wouldn't hurt either. I know, cause i have them already too.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Deetz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Its true the the ITR TB is bigger (62mm), its only by a couple mm. The ITR manifold has shorter fatter runners that are great for hogh flow, but only really make a difference after about 8200prm where it has a small peak for about 1000rpm.
Ideally, if you bought an aftermarket TB, or had your stocker boared out and a P30 intake port matched, you would have the very best powerband besting the ITR part by a good 4-6hp across the board. The P30 manifold has long well designed runners providing a decent amount of lower end and mid range power which a B16 is so greatly in need of.
I have both manifolds for a b16 of mine, the 2nd gen B16 intake does work better overall.
As far as cams go, they will work great with any vtev b series regardless. Of coarse they work best on higher compression (the more, the better), and some cam gears wouldn't hurt either. I know, cause i have them already too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good info Deetz, I was about to throw down some coin on an ITR IM. I'll be looking at the performance of the P30 IM now too.
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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well if it does make better low and mid thats good, but honda's are made for the high revving power not really for there mid range and low-end power. But i see what you are saying! Its really good info for future reference!!
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