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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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ok, i did as much research as i could and im getting different ideas, but not for what im running, i have a b16a1, obd0, t3/t04 turbo, dsm 450cc injectors, walbro 255 fuel pump, and tryed tuning with different programs to cut the fuel down, but im still running way to rich, and it runs like ***, choking itself with gas, could i have bad injectors to cause this problem, please help
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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what sort of programs have you used?
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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what kind of fuel management, and is it tuned?
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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well we tried using crome just to see if anything happened, same thing, we used zeitronix as a wide band, turbo edit we tried, and something else i forgot, but they all did the same thing and wouldnt cut the fuel at all, the fuel pressure is fine, but its running to rich even after trying to tune it down
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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keep tuning it down then. I had to take 50% fuel out of the idle just for it to be in the 14's to idle. Even in partial throttle I have to take out quite a bit of fuel to get good gas mileage. Don't be afraid to lean out a little in partial throttle, just don't do it in boost or just fix it immediatly
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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thats one of the problems we faced, it wouldnt let us take anymore away and as much as it did let us it didnt change anything
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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is there a way to know if you have bad injectors, and what would happen if i put the stock injectors in it to see if it runs
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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If you put in your stock injectors........it will idle like stock. But once you start driving you will lean out.....guaranteed.

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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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well then that is a good way to check to see if it is the injectors, cuz it idles like **** right now, so i put the stock ones in, but dont drive, i will know that thats the problem right
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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If you put them in.......yeah don't drive it.

It should idle smooth.

I still think its a tuning issue.

When i put my 440cc injectors in my car, it could barely stay running......was way too rich. Towed my car to a tuning shop......slapped it on the dyno.......now it runs like a million bucks.

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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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well tommorrow were gonna try it again, with a set of different injectors and just take a lot of fuel away and see what happens, thanx for your input, im hoping for the best
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