Front:



I'll put the rear up tomorrow. I can`t get into a certain program I need.

Front and rear displacement graph:



See the official shock dyno thread for tips on how to read the graph. All and all they are pretty simillar to a Tokico Blue from what I have seen.

Just want to say thank to Steve for dropping them off. I dyno'd his adjustable stuff, too, but can`t get the files open. I will post them as well.


Modified by vtecvoodoo at 11:25 PM 6/17/2005

 

what about the springs, were they the ones you were talking about in a other thread recently

 

Thanx for the info Ryan!

 

please explain graph, Master Shock Dynoer...(have been waiting for this dyno for some time now) Should I buy or not buy...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nemesis0104 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">please explain graph, Master Shock Dynoer...(have been waiting for this dyno for some time now) Should I buy or not buy...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bradstard and myself like ours

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ben Howard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanx for the info Ryan! </TD></TR></TABLE>

For sure!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nemesis0104 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">please explain graph, Master Shock Dynoer...(have been waiting for this dyno for some time now) </TD></TR></TABLE>

pretty please? The displacement one confuses me I would have expected the graph to look like y=mx, where m is the spring rate, when velocity is low.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ben Howard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bradstard and myself like ours</TD></TR></TABLE>

Me three.

 

you said its pretty equal to the tokico blues... arent the blues one of the cheapest shocks you can get?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nemesis0104 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">please explain graph, Master Shock Dynoer...(have been waiting for this dyno for some time now) Should I buy or not buy...</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nemesis0104 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">please explain graph, Master Shock Dynoer...</TD></TR></TABLE>

read the other thread, you will be able to under stand the first graph shown, the second one Ryan will have to help out on.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nemesis0104 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Should I buy or not buy...</TD></TR></TABLE>

again its up to you...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bay_707 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you said its pretty equal to the tokico blues... arent the blues one of the cheapest shocks you can get?</TD></TR></TABLE>

most people i know consider the blues a "oem replacment".

after seeing two different graphs, the product is right in line with the price.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
after seeing two different graphs, the product is right in line with the price.</TD></TR></TABLE>

suprise!

a 600 dollar coilover unit is on par with cheap shocks and a coilover sleeve product.

oh , Mucho thanks on the time to Dyno/Post the plot Ryan.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

suprise!

a 600 dollar coilover unit is on par with cheap shocks and a coilover sleeve product.

oh , Mucho thanks on the time to Dyno/Post the plot Ryan.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not really, i never bought the marketing stuff, or that the product was soo GOOOooOOOD but alot of people love it.

i think those are the same people who love the million billion bars and stuff to though so ya know

 

The product is a good product. I dont think its Bandwagon, especially for those of us who bought em early.

 

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never said that the product was crappy, or anything, im simply saying that the stats reflect the price. Which means these aren't some super duper mad tight setup.

and im still waiting for ryan to post the spring results as promised, im guessing he will get them up some time this work week.

your paying for a set of tociko blue shocks and skunk2/omni coil overs.

 

IMO i have had both illuminas and the hp's (both tokico) the illuminas were fantabulous, and the hps were stiff, uncomfortable, and just felt like a stiff oem replacement. If you like to take the twisties and are on the budget these are for you.. budget being something similar to a burger king or taco bell part time position job.

 

good job vtecvoodoo, i think a bunch of us is waiting for the omni's shock dyno

 

Does anyone happen to have a Tokico Blue dyno chart handy? I've never seen one, and this Omni/Tokico comparison is interesting.

 

I do. I`ll get it up tomorrow.

 

And the UGR's, perhaps?

 

r u sure the blue has the same spec as the Omni???i don't think the blue can handle those omni spring rate ...

 

very interesting...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PURPLETERROR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

, zero body roll. You shouldnt hop on the bashing bandwagon if you dont have first hand experience.

Bottom line is the omni's are a great product for the price, get the streets if you want a comfortable ride and better handling than than stock, get the sports if you want your car to handle like a go kart</TD></TR></TABLE>

you know i don't disagree with the things said about menkio, but you really don't know what you talking about.

1. omni's wont get ride of body roll
2. the omni power product quality is REFLECTED in its price, its a cheap complete coil-over, with ok dampening characteristics, and the springs well lets wait tell Ryan posts them up.
3. your car WILL not handle like a go kart with the sports.

also Steve HAS NEVER goten involved in a thread like this, (ie defended/explained his product/marketing). It would be pretty pointless and an endless argument if he did, so i can understand why.

Look at kteller, he has been involved in many of these threads, what did it get him? practice typing, and practice avoiding questions.

THIS IS THE SECOND set of omni's to be dyno'd. the first was done a while back, but never released until recently.

And just because ryan said the graph looks similar to the blues, doesn't mean they ARE THE blues. The curve could have alot of the same characteristics as the blues.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. omni's wont get ride of body roll</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. It WILL reduce body roll in proportion to the spring rates though, somewhat independently of the shocks.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also Steve HAS NEVER goten involved in a thread like this, (ie defended/explained his product/marketing). It would be pretty pointless and an endless argument if he did, so i can understand why. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, I wouldn't either. Well, yes I would, becuase I'm a chatty ******* on the 'net.

-Chris, still happy with his Omnipower Sports.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes. It WILL reduce body roll in proportion to the spring rates though, somewhat independently of the shocks.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

were talking about completly different things here, you said reduce, he said ZERO as in NON, NILL, non-exzsistant. I simply said that he was false.

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, zero body roll. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1. omni's wont get ride of body roll
</TD></TR></TABLE>


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-Chris, still happy with his Omnipower Sports.</TD></TR></TABLE>

get some miles on them and tell me how the springs do.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I simply said that he was false.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was agreeing with you.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> get some miles on them and tell me how the springs do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've got 3 track weekends (VIR, Road America, Exblow) and 10K miles on them. They've been on since about November.

You're wondering if they're drooping or something? They don't seem to be, I had to raise them a wee bit to keep them from rubbing (right after installing them), and they haven't started rubbing again or anything. Also the preload hasn't gone away either, it's remained pretty consistent when I checked.

I didn't cornerweight them, I just set them by spring height. I might cornerweight them sometime, if I can borrow some scales at some point.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i was agreeing with you

You're wondering if they're drooping or something?
I didn't cornerweight them, I just set them by height. </TD></TR></TABLE>

my bad, i forgot to pause for the period, grammer OWNZORS my arrs.

give it some time