I was just wondering if the NASA event at VIR this weekend was a spectator event, meaning "can anybody come". I want to go up and watch a couple of you guys on the track, but don't want to drive up there and get turned away. Is anybody from Charlotte going as well?

--thanks

 

Nice sig, Pops!

Jason- who hopes he is not the only black R at VIR, and thinks GK should quit his job to attend this weekend

 

VIR does not consider this NASA event a spectator event. That means if you drive up to the gate and say you are a spectator, you WILL be turned away. They only allow a certain fixed number of spectator events per year.

IF you know someone who is going to be there, please advise the front gate that you are a crew member. Then come see Elyse (registrar) at Techistration and sign in on that person's page. Oh I would probably let that person know that you will be doing this also.

If you coming to watch and planning to stay the day, you can work during the event. You will learn a little of what goes on behind the scenes at an event, earn credit toward track time at a future event and still enjoy your self.

The weather is supposed to get warmer as the week goes on, which means we will have a great time!!!

IF you decide to work ahead of time, please go to nasaracing.net and download a worker form and fax to Lees Z at 703-250-0184. IT is too late to send a wristband, but the chiefs can be advised that there are more people coming to help.

Look forward to seeing all of you in a few days!


[Modified by 89civicZC, 7:51 PM 2/11/2002]

 

I have never had any issues coming to VIR for non spectator events. I've just had to sign a waiver and drive on in, no questions asked

Brian

 

Try it and see what happens. THis is what they ahve told us, so Tony just passed on the word.

Elyse
NASA-VA Registrar

 

When did this rule come about, me and my friends had no problems last year, and they would show up at about noon at the track as well.

Brian

 

well, I guess I'm not going to go this weekend since it's not open to non-workers/drivers. I really don't want to chance driving up there for nothing.
Hope you guys have fun. Maybe I'll wait and go to the speedtrial event.

--thanks for your reply's

 

well, i have an invite to the event from Grumpy (wonder if he remembers that) so I wont have a problem getting in. and there are also plenty of people i could "crew" for. its ridiculous they are restricting people from enjoying a day of watching their friends on the track. i'll pay 5 damn dollars to get in if i have to.

Brian

 

ROLL-AN-R!!! even the weak a$$ VW's roll r's!!!

 

I am sorry if this all doesn't live up to what you were used to last year. I don't know if they are clamping down or what the tracks issue is.

All we are is bearer of the word. We would love to have people come out and watch us and their friends enjoy a day at the track. We have offered a way to do so. If you choose to sign in as a crew member you shoudl have NO problem at the gate.

If you choose to help out, you will get in, get worker credit and still get a chance to watch the races and HPDE and friends

Oh. we are having racers from Washington state ( you all know who that is), from Chicago, Georgia. It should be really fun to work and watch.

So there are always options for those who choose to exercise them.

Hope to see you all there!

Elyse NASA-VA Registrar
aka Snow White

 

The rule has always been there. It's an insurance issue (at Summit Point, and I imagine VIR is the same). Somebody has to pay for spectator coverage, if nobody does, then no spectators are allowed. Whether or not the track gate enforces this is a totally seperate issue. This was how it was explained to me.

Anyways, like somebody already said, when in doubt, sign on as crew or volunteer. If you're crew, you probbaly won't have to do much (if anything at all).

 

If you look at the thread by speedracer33, you will note that he is looking for crew.

Hum a way to get into the track.

See? Options always make themselves known!!!

Thanks MAtt

Elyse

 

thats probably why we sign the waiver at the gate, though i never read it i would assume it says (in cliff note form) "if you are hurt or killed at the track, we have no responsibility for it". which i am cool with

Brian

 

The waiver just means the track can't be held responsibile for YOUR actions. If say a grandstand collapses and kills you they are liable - waiver or not. If you don't think this is true then explain to me why you sign a waiver at an autocross and yet most of your entry fee goes to cover the cost of insurance.

 

oh well, thats why i am not a lawyer

Brian
-who will be at VIR, aint no one gonna stop me!

 

LOL i'm just messing with you R owners! i really am jealous of yall!! i sat in #25 at the portland oregon auto show in 97!!! i was aroused!! i've wanted once since then!! but i don't want to pay the 200 a month insurance!! when i can pay 300 a year for the car i drive now! i hope yall know i'm just playing with ya....building comrodery (SP)

late
chad
14

(wishing i was an R owner)

 

hahahaha, punk.......

Hatch Craps...

Its funny, you want an R, and I want my old hatch back.... Isn't it ironic, don't ya think?

Bryan

 

i notice you dont want your old Si, or are you trying to hide that part of your past

Brian

 

Not the only one there, but unfortunately, #9 won't be joining you on track


Pat, who will be crewing for the ITR-NC we-todds

 

trade straight up??

 

AutoX insurance is around $120 per day. Any club paying more than that needs to call a better source (K&K or American Specialty). That's not many entry fees at $20ea.

Road course event insurance, on the other hand, is at least ten times that much...

Jon

 

Let's put this to rest.

1. VIR is ALLOWED only so many spectator events per year. This is to make nice with the neighbors. It is not an insurance thing. The proper insurance can always be purchased.

2. Therefore, VIR will use those few dates where they will get the biggest gate $$$$$$.

3. NASA and Speedtrial are NOT going to bring in big crowds (yet). So, they do not get spectator status.

4. If you say you are there to spectate, the POLICY is you will be turned away. It was that way last year, and no different this year.

5.. Some gate guards might interpret this differently, and therefore some got past the gate last year.

6. ALL ARE WELCOME TO THE NASA EVENT. Just say you are there to work as an official or crew for someone. ITS JUST THAT EASY.

Grumpy

PS Jon can comment to the Speedtrial event, (I'll bet he'll say the same thing.)


[Modified by Grumpy, 8:13 AM 2/12/2002]

 

Slightly off topic...but

Summit Point is just the opposite. To them everything is a spectator event. That's why they nail you for the $30 gate fee. It's refundable to racers, crew and officials, but it's a pain in the a$$.

ALL ARE WELCOME TO NASA EVENTS.Just say you are there to work as an official or crew for someone. ITS JUST THAT EASY. You have to go thru their refund process, but you eventually get in for free.

NASA or any sanctioning organization is at the mercy of the local track policies.

Grumpy




[Modified by Grumpy, 8:20 AM 2/12/2002]

 

Absolutely agree 100%, thanks Grumpy. All are welcome, just tell the gateperson that you are a worker or crew member... and sign the waiver accordingly.

If anybody has a prob getting in (either weekend), call my cell and I'll come up to the gate to say you are "on my pit crew"

Jon

 

Jon: He's on my pit crew.
Gate: Hell of a pit crew you have this weekend sir... what's this? 30?
Jon: My car breaks a lot... ??

I'm fairly willing to bet that if you drive up, sign the waiver, and act like you belong there, they won't question you. Most conversation I've witnessed at the gate has consisted of idle chatter. Good Luck!