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Old Feb 11, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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Default Street Mod 2?

What is the status of this class to date?

I have a general question also. Are ITRs eligible for the standard Street Mod class?


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Old Feb 11, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Street Mod 2? (Ausmith)

SCCA is running Street Mod 2.

The ITR is eligible for Street Mod.
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Old Feb 11, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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Anything is legal for SM except two seaters which go into SM2
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:08 AM
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Very cool... I ask becuase another local was trying to suggest that the ITR was a "sports car platform" and would not be legal for SM....

As far as SM2 goes.... I have wanted to build a 1g CRX street car (with a motor swap), but there has been no street class up to this point.

Thanks for the input.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:18 AM
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Anything is legal for SM except two seaters which go into SM2
Not true - here is the breakdown:

- 2 seaters
- 6.0L and larger motors
- FI'ed motors over 3.0L

None of those are legal in SM
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:01 AM
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how big is the supra motor? Does it remain in SM?
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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Supra is 3.0L

Also gutted interiors are illegal in SM. Because it isn't considered a 'street' car then.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:20 AM
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Ok so you were a little more technical than me There's also a weight minimum for NA, turbo and such cars.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:23 AM
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The weight limit is based on the specific output of the particular car in question. What we were talking about is potentially eligible cars in SM.

SM2 will include all the cars not allowed in SM. This includes 2 seaters, FI over 3.0L and over 6.0L cars such as the Vipers. I predict someone will come out with a 600HP BP C4 or C5 with a full interior and whoop up in that class.



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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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Not too heavy...

Nothing 600 hp and 315mm section width tires can't help. I've personally seen some incredibly quick Corvettes on an autocross course.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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I think a 2700-pound super-charged big-braked JRZ-shocked monster-hoosier'ed NSX would be a force to be reckoned with in SM2. Although I'd have to read the interior rules again... That kind of weight reduction might not be possible in that class.

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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Auto-x is not so much about brute power or for that matter brute anything -- transitory responce and overall balance is more important.
You have never driven a properly set up C4 have you?
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 12:29 PM
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You have never driven a properly set up C4 have you?
Mmmmm.... That'd be my guess... I have driven one (91? Z07)... I was surprised at how nimble it was. Being used to a Miata, I wasn't expecting such great handling out of such a "big" car. Thanks to Mike Dishman for that drive.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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hmm... what about a Miata with a built 5.0 in it? One of those old Monster Motorsports conversion deals. Or maybe a new MRS swapped with a 3S-GTE...
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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Well - Some people say different but I have a super-hard time believing that a Miata with a 5.0L stuffed in the front of it is going to have anything resembling balance and transition ability.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 12:40 PM
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hmm... what about a Miata with a built 5.0 in it? One of those old Monster Motorsports conversion deals. Or maybe a new MRS swapped with a 3S-GTE...
One problem: engine has to be from the same manufacturer as the chassis (or original engine, or something like that). What engine is the 3S-GTE? If it's the supra, how the hell are you gonna stuff it into an MR-S?

As for A-Stock.... I think if someone woke up and found a late-model NSX coupe to run in A-Stock, they'd just totally clean up. Expensive just to win a-stock, though. I'd give it a shot locally if I didn't have headers (which are too much of a pain to take off). Oh wait, this is the Competition forum, not the NSX forum. Sorry. Seriously, though. 290hp, 6-speed, excellent handling... It'd be a serious contender. Biggest disadvantage versus the vette is front tire size, but it makes up for that with better suspension geometry and mid-engine handling. In stock class, you'd be hard-pressed to fit anything bigger than a 225/45/16 under the front end.

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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3S-GTE = MR2 Turbo

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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IMO, whether it be SM or SM2, an 84-87 Civic/CRX prepared somewhere along the lines of John Thomas's EP 86 Civic, would kill just about everything, assuming of course driver talent is along the lines of John Thomas too, hehe ...and that's a BIG assumption...


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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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-Steve (who will be running his prepped M coupe in SM2 this year).
Where?.......NWR? I'd like to see it Steve. Looks like I picked up a ride in a SM Civic. I think we'll do very well locally. There's a few heavy hitters, but I think we'll be able to keep up.
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 06:02 AM
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Default Re: Street Mod 2? (jsi)

Ahhh.... you have seen the light!

1st Gen CRX with an LS or B16 swap and some ballast to make the balance perfect. Of course it would require Integra brakes and all of the suspension work, but you could drive it daily, own on the track, and spend less than $5000 to build it!

Good discussion however.

I love the intent of the Street Mod class.... "The purpose of this class is to allow the maximum amount of creativity while maintaining streetability" - that's like an engineer's wet dream.
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 07:55 AM
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I very well may be going tins way this coming season. THe $2002 challenge car is an 86 CRX DX converted to FI with an 87 Integra driveline/brakes/hubs/etc and a Garett T3, etc with GC's, and Konis. I think I can do reasonably well, I just need an LSD to put the power to the ground.
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 09:01 AM
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SM2 will include all the cars not allowed in SM. This includes 2 seaters, FI over 3.0L and over 6.0L cars such as the Vipers.
It includes all cars not in SM, except for those on the exclusion list, of course (which I believe just says "Lotus: All").
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Old Feb 15, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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my CRX will be eligable for SM2 this year, but i dunno. it has a b16a in the garage. going to be dropped in soon..

oh, and btw, last year with my motor being all stock except an exhaust, i have kyb AGX shocks, skunk2 springs, and khumo 185/60-14 tires. i was able to beat a viper all day long by about 2 seconds. PROVES YOU DON'T NEED POWER IF YOU KNOW HOW TO DRIVE!!

in fact, the fastest cars we really have out here is BS miata's. they are about only 2 seconds of FTD.
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Old Feb 15, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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[quote]The ITR is eligible for Street Mod.[/quote}

Also eligible for the new STX class.
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