LS TURBO QUESTION
I just got a 98 ls with 105k miles on it....it runs perfect...no probs just had to replace the cat. My question is would it be wise to turbo this car? I mean it will be daily driven....plus i travel 3 hours to Austin from Dallas about once every 2 months.....i want to add the power....but being that its daily driven will it end up killing my engine? What can i do to keep my engine lasting long?
You can do it, but be sure to keep your ls tranny as it's the best tranny for turbo. And dont boost to high since it's a daily driver. What turbo kit were you looking into? I might be able to help you out with a drag turbo kit at a really good price, brand new and shipped to you
well this is my first turbo so i was kinda going to ebay all the parts seperately to save money. I'm very new to turbo like super N00b i can probably put it on myself cause it seems really simple.... but the only thing im scared of is maybe do i need to do preperations to my car befor putting turbo to handle it....and then tuning it right. I was looking on ebay and for everything including fmu and oil lines it came out to like 1300 dollars for the entire kit. So then i can afford to get it tuned and dynod. any other advice?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RickyBizee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just got a 98 ls with 105k miles on it....it runs perfect...no probs just had to replace the cat. My question is would it be wise to turbo this car? I mean it will be daily driven....plus i travel 3 hours to Austin from Dallas about once every 2 months.....i want to add the power....but being that its daily driven will it end up killing my engine? What can i do to keep my engine lasting long?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldnt suggest it, unless you upgrade your pistons and such. Running the turbo for long periods of time isnt good for it. If you make frequent stops i think it would be ok. But IMO i dont suggest it. Good Luck!!!
I wouldnt suggest it, unless you upgrade your pistons and such. Running the turbo for long periods of time isnt good for it. If you make frequent stops i think it would be ok. But IMO i dont suggest it. Good Luck!!!
so do you think if i up graded my pistons and stuff....it would be ok cause mainly i daily drive for no more than 30 miles anywhere....i onlly long distance about once every 2 months
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i have the same dilemma.
i would like to turbo my car, but i drive this shlt everywhere. all over cali cuz i have friends that are freaking puzzy when it comes to driving.
i am planning to get the drag kit for 2500. the thing is, my car has too much mileage. 170,000
i would like to know what i can do besides rebuilding the engine.
how much would a rebuild cost me?
what if i just replace my pistons and turbo my car. would that work fine?
im only planning to run 8-11 PSI.
i would like to turbo my car, but i drive this shlt everywhere. all over cali cuz i have friends that are freaking puzzy when it comes to driving.
i am planning to get the drag kit for 2500. the thing is, my car has too much mileage. 170,000
i would like to know what i can do besides rebuilding the engine.
how much would a rebuild cost me?
what if i just replace my pistons and turbo my car. would that work fine?
im only planning to run 8-11 PSI.
You shouldn't have any problems with turboing your car. I had 92k miles on my car when I put my drag kit on I am now at 119k. I have driven from San Diego to Seattle and Seattle to San Antonio with no problems. The only problem I did have though was my radiator, but that was my fault because I didn't check the fluid level. Just do it.
MAN!! all noobs!
let me answer a few questions for you.
YES you will be fine driving for long periods at a time, the only time you put stress on your motor/turbo is when you boost!! so when driving long distance, try to stay out of boost. the only time you will be boosted is when you put load on the engine...meaning when you accelerate, and you can control this of course with your FOOT!
and NO! YOU DON'T NEED LOW COMPRESSION PISTONS TO RUN TURBO!! with a tad bit higher compression pistons such as 9.5:1 (stock is 9.2:1), you'll make better power with lower boost and it also feels better on the street! the most important thing, concerning everything boosted, is the tune.
Before you boost your motor, the most important thing you want to do is a COMPRESSION CHECK! make sure all your cylinders are within 5 or so psi of each other. if they're not, the cylinder with the lowest pressure is gonna be the first one to go usually.
and last but not least, DO NOT BUY EBAY TURBO PRODUCTS!! (unless you buy NAME BRAND stuff). a lot of the SSAUTOCHROME, MASTERPOWER, etc parts/turbos you see on ebay will usually take a crap on you within weeks. it's like they say, you get what you pay for! don't cheap out or else you'll be sorry later on!
Being that this will be your first turbo setup, i suggest you learn as much as you can about Forced Induction before you step into the deep end of the pool. it may sound easy (turboing a car) but there's really more to it than you know. trust me, i've been boosted over 4 years now and i still don't know everything there is to know about being boosted.
let me answer a few questions for you.
YES you will be fine driving for long periods at a time, the only time you put stress on your motor/turbo is when you boost!! so when driving long distance, try to stay out of boost. the only time you will be boosted is when you put load on the engine...meaning when you accelerate, and you can control this of course with your FOOT!
and NO! YOU DON'T NEED LOW COMPRESSION PISTONS TO RUN TURBO!! with a tad bit higher compression pistons such as 9.5:1 (stock is 9.2:1), you'll make better power with lower boost and it also feels better on the street! the most important thing, concerning everything boosted, is the tune.
Before you boost your motor, the most important thing you want to do is a COMPRESSION CHECK! make sure all your cylinders are within 5 or so psi of each other. if they're not, the cylinder with the lowest pressure is gonna be the first one to go usually.
and last but not least, DO NOT BUY EBAY TURBO PRODUCTS!! (unless you buy NAME BRAND stuff). a lot of the SSAUTOCHROME, MASTERPOWER, etc parts/turbos you see on ebay will usually take a crap on you within weeks. it's like they say, you get what you pay for! don't cheap out or else you'll be sorry later on!
Being that this will be your first turbo setup, i suggest you learn as much as you can about Forced Induction before you step into the deep end of the pool. it may sound easy (turboing a car) but there's really more to it than you know. trust me, i've been boosted over 4 years now and i still don't know everything there is to know about being boosted.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinister357 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">question: would a turbo be constantly spinning even at normal driving? if it does, that would be hard on it. i hear they be spinning at over 100,000 rpm.
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a turbo is alway constantly spinning even at idle! and no it doesn't hurt the turbo because it's either spinning on a thin film of oil or ball bearings. the only time you actually put wear on a turbo is when you put load on a turbo. it may not be a lot of wear...but a little here a little there will equal a rebuild later on down the road.
</TD></TR></TABLE>a turbo is alway constantly spinning even at idle! and no it doesn't hurt the turbo because it's either spinning on a thin film of oil or ball bearings. the only time you actually put wear on a turbo is when you put load on a turbo. it may not be a lot of wear...but a little here a little there will equal a rebuild later on down the road.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by importindustries »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can do it, but be sure to keep your ls tranny as it's the best tranny for turbo. And dont boost to high since it's a daily driver. What turbo kit were you looking into? I might be able to help you out with a drag turbo kit at a really good price, brand new and shipped to you
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and another thing, the LS tranny is the worst for boost!! if you're looking for performance than i would suggest a GSR tranny. if you're gonna go extreme than an ITR or b16 tranny will suit you.
don't listen to people telling you that longer gears are better for boost. that is utter bull ****. yes you will boost longer, but accelerate slower. this is because the engine/'turbo sees more load with longer gears...the longer(more) load, the longer the boost, the more effort it takes to move your car.
trust me, i've had both transmissions on my LS turbos(had 4 turbo'd LS) and by far the GSR is the best. i've tried an ITR tranny as well for about a month, but with the power my car makes all i do is spin my tires.
one last thing, it doesn't matter how much you boost to depend on how long your motor will last. it's the amount of power your motor makes that decides it. different turbos will give you different peak power/power bands you could run a GT40 and blow your motor with 6 psi.
Modified by shermanyang at 1:42 AM 6/17/2005
</TD></TR></TABLE>and another thing, the LS tranny is the worst for boost!! if you're looking for performance than i would suggest a GSR tranny. if you're gonna go extreme than an ITR or b16 tranny will suit you.
don't listen to people telling you that longer gears are better for boost. that is utter bull ****. yes you will boost longer, but accelerate slower. this is because the engine/'turbo sees more load with longer gears...the longer(more) load, the longer the boost, the more effort it takes to move your car.
trust me, i've had both transmissions on my LS turbos(had 4 turbo'd LS) and by far the GSR is the best. i've tried an ITR tranny as well for about a month, but with the power my car makes all i do is spin my tires.
one last thing, it doesn't matter how much you boost to depend on how long your motor will last. it's the amount of power your motor makes that decides it. different turbos will give you different peak power/power bands you could run a GT40 and blow your motor with 6 psi.
Modified by shermanyang at 1:42 AM 6/17/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaydeemmmm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Everyone listen to Sherman. Sleeve the block first.
It'll cost you a few pretty pennies though.
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what does "sleaving the block" means ? and how much does this usually cost ?
also, are all these precedures for turbo applies to supercharging as well ? i.e. new pistons, sleeved block..etc..
It'll cost you a few pretty pennies though.
</TD></TR></TABLE>what does "sleaving the block" means ? and how much does this usually cost ?
also, are all these precedures for turbo applies to supercharging as well ? i.e. new pistons, sleeved block..etc..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinister357 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you must be the same shermanyang everyone worships on team integra...haha. j/k catch you at the meet.
Modified by sinister357 at 4:44 AM 6/17/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL, no one worships me. they love to make fun of me and argue with me
hope to see you at the meet too Sing.
Modified by sinister357 at 4:44 AM 6/17/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL, no one worships me. they love to make fun of me and argue with me
hope to see you at the meet too Sing.
You got some good information posted already.
As previously mentioned, the more power your making the more wear n tear your getting. Differant setups yield differant results. You need to research before you dive into this. Yes you are right, just adding the kit to your car is simple enough. but whats neglected here is preparation. Can your car handle it?
Things you should be considering: compression, is the engine on it's last foot?, tires, are you gonna die in a corner?, suspension, same. Say your boosting in an aspirited driving session and you corner a little harder then usual. Do you A) fly into the divider. or B) ride through it because you were smart enough to buy some good tires and upgraded your suspension as well.
Ask yourself what are your goals. For real, not some short term concept. If you want something serious, read-up. Find out what parts you need to replace to attain your hp and driving goals.
I.e. forged pistons @ what C/R, what rods (what length and style), head porting, valvetrain, block sleeving, alternative engine managment, new head studs, oversized pistons (what bore), tranny prep (limited slip, maybe shorter gearing) etc etc.... and thats just under the hood. What about suspension?
If your on a mission to learn the minimum and just boost. My opinion is to buy a reputable kit. If you take some time and thumb through posts and countless web pages, piece one together. JUST DONT EVER NEGLECT A TUNE. That is key. Uberdata and Chrome are good, I suggest Hondata. Do yourself a favor, and slow down and read up. Before you end up buying some crap stone mountain racing or ss autochrome garbage.
As previously mentioned, the more power your making the more wear n tear your getting. Differant setups yield differant results. You need to research before you dive into this. Yes you are right, just adding the kit to your car is simple enough. but whats neglected here is preparation. Can your car handle it?
Things you should be considering: compression, is the engine on it's last foot?, tires, are you gonna die in a corner?, suspension, same. Say your boosting in an aspirited driving session and you corner a little harder then usual. Do you A) fly into the divider. or B) ride through it because you were smart enough to buy some good tires and upgraded your suspension as well.
Ask yourself what are your goals. For real, not some short term concept. If you want something serious, read-up. Find out what parts you need to replace to attain your hp and driving goals.
I.e. forged pistons @ what C/R, what rods (what length and style), head porting, valvetrain, block sleeving, alternative engine managment, new head studs, oversized pistons (what bore), tranny prep (limited slip, maybe shorter gearing) etc etc.... and thats just under the hood. What about suspension?
If your on a mission to learn the minimum and just boost. My opinion is to buy a reputable kit. If you take some time and thumb through posts and countless web pages, piece one together. JUST DONT EVER NEGLECT A TUNE. That is key. Uberdata and Chrome are good, I suggest Hondata. Do yourself a favor, and slow down and read up. Before you end up buying some crap stone mountain racing or ss autochrome garbage.
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shup, n00b.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shermanyang »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and another thing, the LS tranny is the worst for boost!! if you're looking for performance than i would suggest a GSR tranny. if you're gonna go extreme than an ITR or b16 tranny will suit you. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thank you.
shup, n00b.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shermanyang »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and another thing, the LS tranny is the worst for boost!! if you're looking for performance than i would suggest a GSR tranny. if you're gonna go extreme than an ITR or b16 tranny will suit you. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thank you.


