i searched and searched but only found somebody with buddy spec 4's w/ ctr pistons and it didnt answer my question...i blew my motor so im going to just take it off the road and rebuild it. i have a b16a3 in a del sol. right now i have buddy club spec 3 cams in there and im finally going to upgrade my valvetrain..has anybody ran ctr pistons w/ these cams? how were your #s? do the cams react good to the compression increase? sorry if this was covered but i couldnt find it thanks

 

how much power did u gain from just the buddy club 3 cams on your stock head with stock valvetrain?

 

i dunno i bent a valve the 1st day i had it on the road lol...so that whole thing where the stock valvetrain is fine is a lie...i dont even rev past 8k

 

I know some one with a R motor with CTRs and bc 4. Stock head gasket with full valvetrain. dyno 215hp to the wheels with no problems yet.. he never adjusted the gears because of fear of clearance issues. but the thing runs solid.

 

thats the same setup im about to run.............ctr and bc spec 4's. did he get his tuned and what is he running?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by squarepants &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know some one with a R motor with CTRs and bc 4. Stock head gasket with full valvetrain. dyno 215hp to the wheels with no problems yet.. he never adjusted the gears because of fear of clearance issues. but the thing runs solid.</TD></TR></TABLE>


would like to know more about his set-up n track times???

 

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would like to know more about his set-up n track times??? </TD></TR></TABLE>




<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by squarepants &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know some one with a R motor with CTRs and bc 4. Stock head gasket with full valvetrain. dyno 215hp to the wheels with no problems yet.. he never adjusted the gears because of fear of clearance issues. but the thing runs solid.</TD></TR></TABLE>

215 damn nice number!

and how different are spec 4's from the 3's? cause i have 3's

 

bump im wastedddddddddddd just got back from the bar

 

You bent a valve the first day with BC Stg 3? Did you adjust your valves after installing the cams?

 

Right now Im running a B18c block and I have the stock pistons with the BC Spec 4. You NEED to upgrade you valve springs and retainers. You are also goin to need bigger injectors. I tried running stock injectors and I got crappy numbers. Got 400cc Perstion injectors and I got 200whp. All I know is with these cams you need to run high compression. You WILL get better numbers.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_Ej &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You bent a valve the first day with BC Stg 3? Did you adjust your valves after installing the cams?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i adjusted my valves...i even had a honda tech adjust them to make sure they were right...the same day it blew up...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18civicsi00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right now Im running a B18c block and I have the stock pistons with the BC Spec 4. You NEED to upgrade you valve springs and retainers. You are also goin to need bigger injectors. I tried running stock injectors and I got crappy numbers. Got 400cc Perstion injectors and I got 200whp. All I know is with these cams you need to run high compression. You WILL get better numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

my question is are buddy club 4's close to the same as 3's? good number too! i cant wait to see what numbers i can get out of the little b16

 

buddy club 4's make power a lot higher, higher lift/duration, requires full valvetrain. i think the 3's start to run out of steam around 9

 

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my 3+ cams peaked at 8000 rpm and then died hard.

 

thanks for the correction

 

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haha, youre my hero!!!

who told this guy bc3's would be fine with stock valvetrain?

 

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who told this guy bc3's would be fine with stock valvetrain?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well i searched around honda-tech and everybody said 3's are ok with the stock valvetrain. I also asked the place i ordered from and they said it would be fine too..But i guess everybody was wrong.i was in 4th gear and downshifted to 3rd to pass some old lady and BAMMM!!! i only brought it to 8k. Hopefull ill get the head off tonight and see whats wrong.i was going to do it today but i was hung over! and couldnt move.. lol

 

your on the stock del sol valvetrain? with the bc3+'s, people suggest at least the itr outter/portflow inner combonation. at least thats what i ran them on, and i had no problems.

 

im pulling my head off today to see what damage happened..im def. upgrading to a full omni valvetrain and some ctr pistons..hopefully ill get some good numbers..will i have any clearence problems if i use a stock headgasket?

 

i pulled my head off tonight...check it out at https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1282760

it is ugly ...but now im just gonna pull the entire motor and make it nice and fresh! doing the crank and everything

 

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i only brought it to 8k. </TD></TR></TABLE>

In the other thread you said you only took it to 7k.

 

it was 7k! my bad...i meant to say i didnt even bring it past 8k

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94_Del Sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it was 7k! my bad...i meant to say i didnt even bring it past 8k </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ah ok, that sucks. O well, gives you an excuse to build a motor.

 

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Ah ok, that sucks. O well, gives you an excuse to build a motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>


i know i said the same thing lol...and i get to learn something to..