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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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Let's say you have a Civic hatch, let say 99-00, doesn't matter. If you could spend $10,000, no more, no less, how would you do it? Labor costs do not apply to things anyone with a few tools and half a brain can do (swaps, disc conversion, NOS) Try to be as realistic as possible. i.e. if you say B18c with a full turbo and NOS kit that equals 10K, it would be unrealistic since the brakes and suspension would still be stock, and would suck. So, think about trying to make it as well rounded as possible. This was my thought:

B18C Swap: $3500
Brembo front discs and good pads+braided lines: $200
Omni Sports: $650
Urethane bushing kit: $150 +$200 install (includes alignment)
Sus tech sway bar kit: $260
Dc short shifter: $120
NOS fogger plate nitrous system: $600
Dc header: $350
Thermal Cat-back exhaust: $550
AEM cam gears: $200
ACT clutch kit: $350 + $175 install
16" Rotas with Falken Azenis tires: $900
Omni F & R camber kit: $300
Tenzo R racing seats with sliders and brackets: $650
Si front lip and Type R rear lip + trim painted: $600
Alpine Cd player: $225


TOTAL: $9980

Maybe I left a few things out, what do you think?


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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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wrong forum, read forum guidelines, reported
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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What would the use be?

Drag- H22 with a 100 shot and slicks, put the rest in suspension and brakes.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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oops! Meant to go into OT with this one. Will edit.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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Oh shut up you whiney little wanna be moderator biatch.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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Should I choose to accept it?

Suspension:
Omnipower streets $650
Front/Rear Camber Kits $200
OEM ITR Front/Rear Sway Bars + Beaks $250
ES Hyperflex Master Kit + Free Labor (if you're lucky) $120
Rota's $400
Azenis $250?

Brakes
Integra Spec Front/Rear Brakes (including MC, BB, Prop) $500
Brembo Blanks $140
AEM Pads $120?

Engine

B18C5 + Tuning around $5500

Total = $8130

Investment into something worthwhile $1870

I'm sure someone else can build a way more badass car than me.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litterbox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Should I choose to accept it?

Suspension:
Omnipower streets $650
Front/Rear Camber Kits $200
OEM ITR Front/Rear Sway Bars + Beaks $250
ES Hyperflex Master Kit + Free Labor (if you're lucky) $120
Rota's $400
Azenis $250?

Brakes
Integra Spec Front/Rear Brakes (including MC, BB, Prop) $500
Brembo Blanks $140
AEM Pads $120?

Engine

B18C5 + Tuning around $5500

Total = $8130

Investment into something worthwhile $1870

I'm sure someone else can build a way more badass car than me. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Nice, great mind think somewhat alike.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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H22, 75 shot, I/H/E
Hondata
Clutch + Flywheel
Good axles
GC/Koni Yellows
Suspension Tech Sway bars
Ebay strut and tie bars
Traction Bars
Brembo Blanks
Hawk Pads
Stainless Steel brake lines
Forbidden Shifter
Rota's + Tires
Front Camber Kit
No cosmetic mods, save the money for gas.
I'm way to lazy to put prices in, but I know it can be done for under $10K
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IHateJDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Forbidden Shifter
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Thats cool, I didnt know anyone actually made a "true" short shifter for the cable shifters. Nice and adj too.

Add that to my list of H parts to get.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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Go K series and spend the extra 2000-3000 on your suspension, tires, and brakes...

I did

It is right around 10,000 too...

5 lug
pads
fluid
ss lines
bushings
omni coil-overs (race)
A spec racing rear brace + 32mm hollow sway bar
Kosie K1's 16x7.5
Azenis 215/45/16
traction bars

thats about 3000 in suspension and brake stuff

K series swap is between 6000-8000 running, if you are smart and can find the good deals.

OH yah I got a 99 hatch as well
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4door_demon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thats cool, I didnt know anyone actually made a "true" short shifter for the cable shifters. Nice and adj too.

Add that to my list of H parts to get. </TD></TR></TABLE>

don't mean to thread jack, but just pm h-t user 4bidden. costs $125, and i've never heard a bad thing about it.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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lol b18c for 3500? are you kidding lol. you can get a full swap for like 1500 if you're lucky and 2000 if not and 2500 if you get ripped off. lol where do you guys live in the middle of no where, usa? lol
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef_you_again &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol b18c for 3500? are you kidding lol. you can get a full swap for like 1500 if you're lucky and 2000 if not and 2500 if you get ripped off. lol where do you guys live in the middle of no where, usa? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

where
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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yeah, i'd like to know as well...
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef_you_again &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol b18c for 3500? are you kidding lol. you can get a full swap for like 1500 if you're lucky and 2000 if not and 2500 if you get ripped off. lol where do you guys live in the middle of no where, usa? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

you do realize that a longblock is not a swap, right?
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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you do realize that a longblock is not a swap, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nyceguy17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Labor costs do not apply to things anyone with a few tools and half a brain can do (swaps, disc conversion, NOS)</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef_you_again &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol b18c for 3500? are you kidding lol. you can get a full swap for like 1500 if you're lucky and 2000 if not and 2500 if you get ripped off. lol where do you guys live in the middle of no where, usa? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>


I live 45 minutes from Import auto salvage. They are the only company I personally know of that will not only give you EVERY part needed to complete the swap, but they test, crate, and ship their motors VERY professionally. I was there on day to watch the guy they have take one out of a GSR. That is his ONLY job. He takes the motor out and uses special caps for all the hoses and connectors to make sure nothing gets into the motor or even bends the pins in the harness plugs. Besides, I could save $500 in shipping by driving there to pick it up.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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ef_you_again, where in my post did I say anything about paying labor costs? I guess you could prob get a 1st gen b16 for that, but the newer b16's are well worth the extra $.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef_you_again &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol b18c for 3500? are you kidding lol. you can get a full swap for like 1500 if you're lucky and 2000 if not and 2500 if you get ripped off. lol where do you guys live in the middle of no where, usa? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup. You're an idiot. You're telling me you can get a clean, complete b18C swap for $1500. No ******* way.
Maybe an abused c1... maybe for $2000 if you know people.

edit- and to the original poster:

Tenzo seats $650 &lt; Delslow seats $200.
Thermal Catback $550 &lt; ES oval + Piping $200-ish
Wow, i sound like an H-T ***** huh.


Modified by mwieczorek43 at 10:26 AM 6/15/2005
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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I wouldn't. I rather spend $10,000 on something that is actually worth something and something that can't be taken away or stolen from me from one day to the next.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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Yeah, like a garage.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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lol@people getting their motor shipped.. thats like extra $500 for nothing.. you get motors from people who crashed their car and now they are sellin the motor? why do you buy motors for so expensive, without a shell to put it in it aint worth ****. thats how ppl make money off dumb people like you that think the motor is worth more than the car lol

and we are talkin about 99-00 si you hardly need to buy anything extra
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef_you_again &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol@people getting their motor shipped.. thats like extra $500 for nothing.. you get motors from people who crashed their car and now they are sellin the motor? why do you buy motors for so expensive, without a shell to put it in it aint worth ****. thats how ppl make money off dumb people like you that think the motor is worth more than the car lol

and we are talkin about 99-00 si you hardly need to buy anything extra</TD></TR></TABLE>

because wrecked (and not wrecked in the front) 99-00 si's not are so common, right? these people also have to be pretty dumb to not know what their motor is worth, because the $500 for shipping (which it doesn't cost that much) still doesn't account for the price you gave earlier. Besides, there's something to be said for having a motor that was never 'enthusiast driven' aka ragged out.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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WNC represent, after you get all that stuff then you can cruise on patton ave. on friday and Saturday nites with all the ricers. J/K

I'm in Brevard ....good luck with your project

edit ***get your motor from Import Auto Salvage in Marion, NC , it is not even an hour away from you****
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