ok, i was thinking 2 25 in the front and 2" in the back. think i will need a camber kit. the struts are stock honda and ill be using a coilover suspension. let me know

 

Depends on what you drive i guesss, but with my 99 civic sir i had to in the back for sure

I run my tires without a camber kit in the front but i do get some camber wear. I am a bit lower int he front so you may not need a front one. In the back you will definetly need one!

Also you'll be replacing your struts soon becuase they will blow. Just a heads up.

 

your struts will die at that height, i hope you like riding bumpstops too.

you don't need to spend money on a camber kit. you need to buy new shocks.

you won't really need the camber kit anyway. just align it after you lower, and zero out the toe.

 

you will need a toe alignment more than you will need camber adjustment.

 

i'm at around 2.5 inches in the front and they wear very noticably. But depending what offset your runing on your rims you run into rubbing problems if you have 0 camber so thast partially why i have not put one on the front. A camber kit in the rear is free...just use the washer trick assuming you have a civic or something similar.

 

i've been on about -2 degrees of camber for the past 15,000 miles on all 4 corners. don't notice any camber wear at all.

 

whats the washer trick?

 

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well, did you get your car aligned?

 

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its called shimming, basicly your putting a washer in between the frame and the control arm bolts to push the camber out

 

ok so let me get this straight. i dont really care about my struts because they are almost gone anyways. ill buy some gas struts soon. i want to drop my car with a coilover suspension the lowest i can go without wrecking my tires. i know that whenver you change something in your suspension you need to get a wheel alignment. so what i was thinking droping it until i need to get a wheel alignment and if they cant align it because its too low then raise it up a bit until its to spec

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hamburgler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so let me get this straight. i dont really care about my struts because they are almost gone anyways. ill buy some gas struts soon. i want to drop my car with a coilover suspension the lowest i can go without wrecking my tires. i know that whenver you change something in your suspension you need to get a wheel alignment. so what i was thinking droping it until i need to get a wheel alignment and if they cant align it because its too low then raise it up a bit until its to spec</TD></TR></TABLE>

you're really going about this the HARD way. if your time isn't so valuable to you, as well as general comfort and to a degree, safety, then yeah install a suspension twice. Otherwise, just wait til you have the shocks and do one install.

your tires aren't going to be wrecked from camber. camber doesn't kill tires nearly as fast as toe. camber wear, if it even makes an appreciable difference in tire wear rate, is such that the effects are seen over tens of thousands of miles. Toe can eat a set of tires in a matter of hundreds.

 

yes its been aligned a couple times. Camber wear is just on the inside part of hte tire from runing your tires like this: / \ If you have proper camber settings your tires willl wear out just as the camber wear is eating into the inner rubber compounds of the tire.

He asked about camber so i was just sharing my experiences, friends experiences as well as what i have learned over the years in this hobby. I was assuming he would get an alignment done to correct toe issues like hamburgler was suggesting.

The washer trick is just as stated above, shimming the upper arm mount out slightly to bring your camber back closer to 0. This is simply done by adding washers between the chassis and the uppper arm mount.

 

thanks 99sir. wow i havnt seen someone from calgary on here before

 

I NEED AN ALITMEnt too

 

why doi ONLY have rear camber/toe wear in my ek hb?


Modified by BLUE EH3 at 2:20 PM 7/19/2005

 

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That is incorrect, your tire wearing on the inside is from you toe being incorrect, because you are dragging your tires across the pavement, see below.

road road
/ \ \ /

Toe in Toe out

Your tires can ride for a long time on just the inside before they start to show uneven wear across the tread from side to side, Camber is a slow wearing issue, as long as your car is in spec, and spec for a lot of Honda's is up to -1.5 you should not have any issues with camber wearing the tires quickly.
Toe is quick because if you look at the diagram above you are dragging your tires across the pavement.