OK I dont understand how come you ppl always want to swap a b16 head for a b18 one. What makes the b16 head better, I'd think the 1.8 litter is better than 1.6.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supperfly17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK I dont understand how come you ppl always want to swap a b16 head for a b18 one. What makes the b16 head better, I'd think the 1.8 litter is better than 1.6.</TD></TR></TABLE>

who exactly is "you ppl"...some people do it for ls/vtec conversion but otherwise id be asking the same question...

 

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ur kidding right ? tell me u are..

 

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well i remember reading some posts about ppl wanting to do it, thats why i was clueless

 

man im a noob, just tell me so i dont embaarass myself anymore.

 

It has a better flow rate than a GSR, and I have heard that it's basically like a Type R head without the polishing. And a Type R head is much greater in price than a b16 head.

 

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Ok, basically alot of people want them because it is a VTEC head. If you dont know how vtec works then please please research it. It is essentially a Type-R cast without the port polishing. People want them for the ls/vtec and b20/vtec conversions.

 

so basically just getting a b16 head by itself aint gonna cut it.

 

well it depending on if you had a VTEC before or not, if you had a b18b1, then yes, you're going to get to have the wonderful world of vtec, if you had a b18c1, i wouldn't waste the time/money unless you were going to boost it. The pr3 head (b16) will lower your compression ratio, therefore being better for turbo applications, but if you are going to be serious, and going NA then i would go with a head that has higher compression ratio like the p72 head(GSR).

 

ALL ABOUT THE V-Tech!

 

If I see another person post "v-tech" I'm going to snap!! Why are you giving props to your phone?!?!

 

agk20teg...i hate to say this, but you might want to change your avator before they take avator privaleges away and knock points from you. nice **** though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95ILS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well it depending on if you had a VTEC before or not, if you had a b18b1, then yes, you're going to get to have the wonderful world of vtec, if you had a b18c1, i wouldn't waste the time/money unless you were going to boost it. The pr3 head (b16) will lower your compression ratio, therefore being better for turbo applications, but if you are going to be serious, and going NA then i would go with a head that has higher compression ratio like the p72 head(GSR). </TD></TR></TABLE>


dang....the performance of the head is not because of "vtec".....its due to the more agresive cams, better flowing head(larger valves, better angled ports, smaller combustion chambers, etc)......vtecs function is not to gain power, ppl accually make more power with a vtec when eliminating the vtec function from the head

 

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excuse u its VTEC not V-Tech. not tryin to be a D***..

 

Are you saying that if I were to disable vtec, I would gain HP/TQ???

 

If you are talking about b16 head vs gsr head... Then as far as I've heard... GSR heads flow better PERIOD. Everyone goes around saying that they want the b16 head because it is the same as a type-r head, but the stock b16 head is NOWHERE NEAR the specs of a type-r one. I hope a professional head porter, or someone with a flow bench comes in here to verify...

But if you are talking about b16 head vs LS head, then that is a whole different story. The b16 head is equipped with vtec, and it also flows better than a LS head..

 

people are saying the b16 head is the same as the type R just with out the factory p&p.. so does that mean a b16 head has thw same internals as the type R head?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda011 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">people are saying the b16 head is the same as the type R just with out the factory p&p.. so does that mean a b16 head has thw same internals as the type R head?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No.

 

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no using a cam set-up from toda...and such to have the cams set-up run like a ls motor.....so the power stays consitant.....like now lag time in between the engagement

 

ok, say that was done, but using an LS bottom end? What would the comparison there be? better or worse than with the GSR bottom end?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMH22EJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are talking about b16 head vs gsr head... Then as far as I've heard... GSR heads flow better PERIOD. Everyone goes around saying that they want the b16 head because it is the same as a type-r head, but the stock b16 head is NOWHERE NEAR the specs of a type-r one. I hope a professional head porter, or someone with a flow bench comes in here to verify...

But if you are talking about b16 head vs LS head, then that is a whole different story. The b16 head is equipped with vtec, and it also flows better than a LS head..</TD></TR></TABLE>

just because its equiped with vtec doesnt make it better....say you "equip" the ls head with vtec.....it wont be any faster....because the ls head doesnt flow good....if anything the vtec function make the car ball-less until vtec....but they are good motors

 

what if i were to put the toda equipped gsr head on an LS??

 

it would be a ls/vtec without vtec