J's Exhaust question
Okay, I have made up my mind and I think I'm going to go with the J's Racing titanium exhaust that I plan on ordering from AJ-R. As of know the caR has the stock exhaust and header. The J's piping diameter is 60 mm (i believe 2.36 inches). Some of you might suggest that I get the J's header and test pipe to make this bolt up perfectly. Well, dont think Ill be able to afford that right away. I was planning on purchasing a DC header, (not the best I know, but cheap at least for the time being) and getting a cat form Kteller.com and re-do the flanges. At the moment, I'm not aware of any R's with this exhaust yet, only a few S2K's. I decided to post this since its Sunday, its raining and I have nothing to do, and AJ-R isnt open for me to call them. So I figured I would throw out a few questions to see if anyone could help me. I would just like some input on how I can get this exhaust mounted up. I'm gonna be searching on h-t and the internet after i post this to see if I can find any answers to my questions. Thanks a lot guys.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC231 Sean »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The J's racing 60RS Circuit Ti exhaust is the only Ti exhaust made by J's for the DC2. The exhaust piping is 60mm or 2.36 inches.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have a DC2-R and plan on putting it on my DC2-R. I stated above that I knew the diameter, I'm just not sure how to get the thing on.
I have a DC2-R and plan on putting it on my DC2-R. I stated above that I knew the diameter, I'm just not sure how to get the thing on.
You said "I believe" and I was simply confirming that the size was correct. You will need a shorter catalytic converter to make the exhaust fit with your stock header.
Modified by DC231 Sean at 9:49 PM 6/12/2005
Modified by DC231 Sean at 9:49 PM 6/12/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC231 Sean »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You said "I beleive" and i was simply confirming that the size was correct. You will need a "JDM" length catalytic converter (60mm in and 60mm out) to make the exhaust fit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh my bad, lol. I thought you just stated that out of nowhere, haha. Thanks for confirming though. I just want to make sure I know everything that I plan on doing before spending the money, ya know? MooFX, i bet you could help
Oh my bad, lol. I thought you just stated that out of nowhere, haha. Thanks for confirming though. I just want to make sure I know everything that I plan on doing before spending the money, ya know? MooFX, i bet you could help
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC231 Sean »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You said "I beleive" and i was simply confirming that the size was correct. You will need a "JDM" length catalytic converter (60mm in and 60mm out) to make the exhaust fit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I made a mistake. If you go with a USDM DC 4-1 header and install the J's racing Ti exhaust you will need a shorter catalytic converter when compared to the USDM catalytic converter. This will not be the same length as the JDM DC2 catalytic converter as I previously stated. If you decided to go with another header the catalytic converter diameter and length may have to change accordingly.
I made a mistake. If you go with a USDM DC 4-1 header and install the J's racing Ti exhaust you will need a shorter catalytic converter when compared to the USDM catalytic converter. This will not be the same length as the JDM DC2 catalytic converter as I previously stated. If you decided to go with another header the catalytic converter diameter and length may have to change accordingly.
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If I was you, I would use the money to get a GOOD header and whatever left over for an exhaust. A good header with a cheap custom 2.5" exhaust will net you much more gain than a crap DC header with an expensive J's Ti exhaust.
But if a bling bling exhaust is what you want, then get the J's and save up for a nice header later.
But if a bling bling exhaust is what you want, then get the J's and save up for a nice header later.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mafay2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I was you, I would use the money to get a GOOD header and whatever left over for an exhaust. A good header with a cheap custom 2.5" exhaust will net you much more gain than a crap DC header with an expensive J's Ti exhaust.
But if a bling bling exhaust is what you want, then get the J's and save up for a nice header later. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, it is some "bling" factor involved, but as I continue to work on my car, im gonna keep using J's stuff and keep it somewhat in uniform if that makes any since. Later on I will upgrage to the J's header, but for the time being ill use a DC. Im not going for massive power gains and going into the motor for internal work until i find a good tuner in my area and learn more of the mechanical/tuning aspect of my car. Since im young and dont have a lot of cash i cant afford to mess anything up. Yeah, the J's exhaust is expensive and might not have the best gains, but i really like the brand and I have worked my *** off for what I plan on doing. But yeah, upgrades will eventually come. And thanks for more specs DC231 Sean, it helps
But if a bling bling exhaust is what you want, then get the J's and save up for a nice header later. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, it is some "bling" factor involved, but as I continue to work on my car, im gonna keep using J's stuff and keep it somewhat in uniform if that makes any since. Later on I will upgrage to the J's header, but for the time being ill use a DC. Im not going for massive power gains and going into the motor for internal work until i find a good tuner in my area and learn more of the mechanical/tuning aspect of my car. Since im young and dont have a lot of cash i cant afford to mess anything up. Yeah, the J's exhaust is expensive and might not have the best gains, but i really like the brand and I have worked my *** off for what I plan on doing. But yeah, upgrades will eventually come. And thanks for more specs DC231 Sean, it helps
If you are getting a 2000 dollar exhaust because you like the name then you are throwing your money away.
More power can be had for way cheaper. I would get a nice header and good flowing exhaust. Titanium doesn't mean ****.
And since you said you are working your *** off. That tells me you don't have that much money to throw around. So I would think things through and eventually you will realize bling will bring you nothing but disappointment.
And this is coming from someone that has spent way too much on the car because he didn't do things right the first time around.
More power can be had for way cheaper. I would get a nice header and good flowing exhaust. Titanium doesn't mean ****.
And since you said you are working your *** off. That tells me you don't have that much money to throw around. So I would think things through and eventually you will realize bling will bring you nothing but disappointment.
And this is coming from someone that has spent way too much on the car because he didn't do things right the first time around.
well, it may not gain much as other exhaust or header,
but if the lightweight is the main factor (oh...and it is so bling too...well it is not my style lol) ,
i don't think the j's racing exhaust is too expensive tho...as least it is cheaper than the amuses R1 lol
PS: as i know, even most lightweight stanliness steel exhaust is still weight 30%~50% more than any Ti exhaust
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">More power can be had for way cheaper. I would get a nice header and good flowing exhaust. Titanium doesn't mean ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>
but if the lightweight is the main factor (oh...and it is so bling too...well it is not my style lol) ,
i don't think the j's racing exhaust is too expensive tho...as least it is cheaper than the amuses R1 lol

PS: as i know, even most lightweight stanliness steel exhaust is still weight 30%~50% more than any Ti exhaust

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">More power can be had for way cheaper. I would get a nice header and good flowing exhaust. Titanium doesn't mean ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do not restrict yourself to one manufacture. Take the 2k you were planning on spending and invest it into proven performance. If you are planning on staying N/A invest in a better header and exhaust combo. Keeping in mind that you have 2k plus to spend look into header manufactures such as SMSP, Hy Tech, and Toda. As for exhausts I have read nothing but good things about SMSP, Hy Tech, and T1R as well as many others that will equal or surpass the performance gains seen by the J's racing Ti exhaust. Invest as much time as possible into researching various companies and products and then make your decision.
Have you heard the J's Ti exhaust on an ITR yet??? Its mega loud!!!!!!! I have heard it on a JDM ITR and it is way louder than a spoon N1 or J's regular exhaust (which is pretty darn loud too) If your only starting to mod your car and dont plan going over the top then i'd advise getting something a little more subtle in the noise dept and spend the rest of the money on a header and test pipe.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by euG3dc2r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you get one, please post up a sound clip :D
I've been looking at the J's catbacks as well, but finding it hard to get over the blue downturn tip!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah i found that too...i think it looks like crap to be honest. I know its function over form but you want something that also looks good if your spending that kind of money on an exhaust and they certainly dont look good
I've been looking at the J's catbacks as well, but finding it hard to get over the blue downturn tip!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah i found that too...i think it looks like crap to be honest. I know its function over form but you want something that also looks good if your spending that kind of money on an exhaust and they certainly dont look good
Sorry guys, JUST saw this thread. 
The J's 60RS Titanium catback is actually VERY quiet, I have not yet heard from anyone that I sold it to tell me it's anywhere near loud.
To whoever said titanium don't mean ****, I dont think you'll be saying that anymore once you feel the weight of it.
The whole catback weighs around under 10lbs, quite a big difference compared to any SS systems in the market. Ti systems will also hold better resale value.
Also, the full Ti catback is only $1350cad / approx $1080usd, that's pretty far away from 2g IMO.
As for the cat, T1R has re-released their JDM length racing converters (resonated test pipe), so it will be direct bolt on with that piece.
I agree with everyone else though, save up for a good quality header, you won't regret it in the future. 
Justin

The J's 60RS Titanium catback is actually VERY quiet, I have not yet heard from anyone that I sold it to tell me it's anywhere near loud.
To whoever said titanium don't mean ****, I dont think you'll be saying that anymore once you feel the weight of it.
The whole catback weighs around under 10lbs, quite a big difference compared to any SS systems in the market. Ti systems will also hold better resale value.
Also, the full Ti catback is only $1350cad / approx $1080usd, that's pretty far away from 2g IMO.

As for the cat, T1R has re-released their JDM length racing converters (resonated test pipe), so it will be direct bolt on with that piece.
I agree with everyone else though, save up for a good quality header, you won't regret it in the future. 
Justin
"Yeah, the J's exhaust is expensive and might not have the best gains"
M8 I had the J's Ti exhaust on my old ITR and it had probably the best power gains from any exhaust I seen and sounds fantastic and reduces weight, go get one you wont be disappointed few Pics here http://www.iol/~alwaysme & http://www.tuningfactory.ie
Don’t know where this bling factor is coming from, the J’s exhaust is the real deal in Honda performance as soon as I can afford it Im getting one for the DC5
Modified by macer at 11:56 PM 6/15/2005
M8 I had the J's Ti exhaust on my old ITR and it had probably the best power gains from any exhaust I seen and sounds fantastic and reduces weight, go get one you wont be disappointed few Pics here http://www.iol/~alwaysme & http://www.tuningfactory.ie
Don’t know where this bling factor is coming from, the J’s exhaust is the real deal in Honda performance as soon as I can afford it Im getting one for the DC5
Modified by macer at 11:56 PM 6/15/2005
Thanks a lot for all the replys guys. Yeah, I know about the header, and i am only going to be driving the car for a few more months until it starts getting cold again and have to throw her in the garage.....weak. And over that time, I will be able to get a different header. I have been talking to a lot of S2K guys and they say the exhaust is really quiet (about half the Spoon N1) and a lot of the owners have it on the J's Header, so those are my plans for the near future.
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