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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Default Another stupid Best I/H/E Question on the EP3 haha

Sorry guys, i know when people post this in my forums I get pissed too but I dont have an EP3, my friend has one and is coming to me for advice as I have more knowledge on parts, what to get, ect. IF MONEY WAS NOT AN ISSUE, what would be one of the best combinations for mid-range power. I am telling him obviously a race header, Toda probably being top of the line with a 2.5" exhaust (no bottlenecks so its free flowing) and a good cold air intake, aem, comptech. Would you guys agree with what i would tell him, any input or suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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If money was not an issue:
Intake - Injen CAI
Header - Jackson Racing is good, better than DC, but if you opt to use a Type S catback you can use the Toda race header (best)
Exhaust - Powergetter (I love the sound of it, but all exhausts are basically the same)
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If money was not an issue:
Intake - Injen CAI
Header - Jackson Racing is good, better than DC, but if you opt to use a Type S catback you can use the Toda race header (best)
Exhaust - Powergetter (I love the sound of it, but all exhausts are basically the same)</TD></TR></TABLE>

can you fit a Type S exhuast under a EP3?
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Old Jun 11, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aznbo1626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

can you fit a Type S exhuast under a EP3?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes. there's this guy on ephatch with an awesome mugen twin loop for the DC5 on his EP3. He just used the a2 header and cat.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Another stupid Best I/H/E Question on the EP3 haha (jamescardenas07)

james, are you associated with spoon or mugen by any chance? lol. you surely, like to promote them

now, for mid-range to top-end power, i'm guessing he likes the road tracks and cones, i suggest any CAI, a comptech header and fujitsubo. that's if money isn't an issue. race headers would be great for an all motor NA going on the quarter-mile track.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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Default Re: Another stupid Best I/H/E Question on the EP3 haha (Lifter2012)

Here's the combo I use on my EP:

AEM CAI
Comptech race header
Skunk 2 exhaust
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 06:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aznbo1626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

can you fit a Type S exhuast under a EP3?</TD></TR></TABLE>

From the cat back, I've been told that they won't fit. I asked King Motorsports if a Mugen catback designed for the Type S will fit on my EP3, and they said it won't fit right, that "all the dimensions are wrong" even if I used different header & cat parts.

You would be able to bolt up an exhaust designed for the CTR if you use a Type-S header & cat (or any aftermarket header/race header designed for the Type-S).
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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in my adventures of actual test and tuning on a 1/8th mile track......the AEM V2, and a Test pipe are the BEST bang for the buck, the header and exaust didn't hardly do anything
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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If you opt for the rsx race header you will have to use the rsx b-pipe and ep3 muffler..You can't use a rsx full catback because it is too long.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jamescardenas07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for a EP3-Depends on if u like Mugen or Spoon
Intake - Spoon Drop In Filter or Mugen AirBox
Header - Mugen or Spoon
Exhaust - Mugen Twinloop or the race type or Spoon Street or N1 (be sure u get the b-pe w/ the exhausts</TD></TR></TABLE>

What he said....
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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Kind of on topic, what have any users actually thought of drop ins as opposed to a sri or cai?
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by giff74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Kind of on topic, what have any users actually thought of drop ins as opposed to a sri or cai? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Better throttle response and gains throughout the ENTIRE powerband.
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Default Re: Another stupid Best I/H/E Question on the EP3 haha (Lifter2012)

for an EP3......AEM v2 cold air intake ($250)....hands down......Greddy full stainless steal catback exhaust ($550)........DC sports ceramic coated 4-2-1 race header ($130 if you buy mine because i have a turbo and dont need it anymore)
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nos4a2si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for an EP3......AEM v2 cold air intake ($250)....hands down......Greddy full stainless steal catback exhaust ($550)........DC sports ceramic coated 4-2-1 race header ($130 if you buy mine because i have a turbo and dont need it anymore)</TD></TR></TABLE>

V2 sucks for midrange torque and an exhaust is a waste of money. Just get a header, midpipe and closed intake like a gutted stock box or the ARC box. You can also do cams and a K-Pro.
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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i beg to differ on the V2, i love it, after finding i forgot to hook up a vacuum line the last time i ran, i since re-ran and layed out a 10.2 in the 1/8th with just the V-2....but i also did the throttle body by-pass loop, tightened up the throttle cable, and soon installing a oil catch can....not HUGE gains, but compared to the stock running 10.6 its not to shabby, future plans are A2 head, K-pro, TODA Cam's....for very next i need a stock cat...or a b-pipe...that should yield more improvemant than anything. i heard the Evo2 makes the car sound great, low noise, but power output avg threw the band is only about 4 horsepower...not worth 500 as of the moment.....now if you go boost...3 inch T-pipe back to a N1 tilt is the only way to go :-D
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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yeah, i definetly beg to differ......my silver black EP3......before all the crap i did to it....and it was just the V2, header, and exhaust, i smoked a black EP3 that had the same amount of work done on it, just different company parts. V2 has one of the best ratings....and your crazy to tell someone not to get a full exhaust. i have never seen a fast car without one. not even and N/A.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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I/H/E is good all around power. without an exhaust you have tons of low end power and no high end. just like getting that adrenaline rush, then 5 seconds later it's all gone.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nos4a2si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, i definetly beg to differ......my silver black EP3......before all the crap i did to it....and it was just the V2, header, and exhaust, i smoked a black EP3 that had the same amount of work done on it, just different company parts. V2 has one of the best ratings....and your crazy to tell someone not to get a full exhaust. i have never seen a fast car without one. not even and N/A.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL Watch some more 2F2F.

Full exhausts aren't needed on the EP3 since the stock axleback flows so well. The bottleneck is the midpipe, cat and header. So when you do your I/H/E, the E only needs to be a midpipe and you'll save a lot of money that you can use to rice-out your car with something other than an axleback.
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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if you wanna talk about 2f2f....my cars performance speaks for itself man. dont matter what movie i (didnt) watch (spend my money on my car not movie tickets lol). im not about to get into a **** fight, because i doubt i'll ever see your car in upstate NY. the larger piping coming from that cat....thus the name....<U>does indeed make the car feel "free-er" in the top end...no doubt</U>. but, i also can tell you there still is noticable gain in the low and medium end as long as the intake and header are replaced, by the way 4-2-1, being a good mid end power header (also depending on apps. cause supercharger are good with them, but turbo, it really depends on your spool rate). basically, the "proof is in the pudding" dude. last year before the other other mods, im saying man, no "stock" EP3 axleback could beat me, out of the 3 that actually race here in this hell hole of a town. they had a header and cold air filter...just like every newb buys when mommy and daddy give them their first allowance. they lacked a good exhaust. i tore them up. im not saying i beat them by 8 seconds but, anyways, like i said, you cant beat experience man, dont care what you read in the owners manual. any racer/race fan knows, you need low end and mid and high end, the whole shebang, **** take off the cat! yeah its illegal to do so in most states, but it didnt stop me! in a drag quarter mile, that high end when you get up in the gears will make the difference that you migt of lacked for .2 seconds in the low end off the line. get yourself an LSD and good tires with propper suspension tweaks and it will make up for that .2 seconds you might lose. so unless you plan on draggin your car from stop light to 100ft away stop light, go ahead, dont replace the exhaust. yeah, there is some added stuff, but you need one thing to make another better. didnt he say money DIDNT MATTER?
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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What a clown. Learn what a midpipe is. You're claiming that a car running I/H/E will make more power than a car running I/H/midpipe and that's just plain stupid. There have been MANY dynos showing no gain from swapping out the stock axleback for another axleback.

Guess what? The CTR uses the SAME axleback as the US Si.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Packaging people, it's all in the package.

I &lt;3 Lego-building...not.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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no...no....and no..... a catback gets more HP gains that an axleback. coming down from the downpipe, into the cat (which i say just take the cat out, who cares if its illigal) and to the rest of the exhaust, consistent exhaust pipe diameter is key and most of the time different diameters shift your power curve. generally when you upgrading your engine you will be using larger piping. if you choose the keep the small a$$ diamter axleback compared to the larger downpipe and midpipe diameter your NOT going to have a consistant diameter along the entire system. you just have to choose the right parts. you get that good flow, your going to get HP gains. simple as that.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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i got an evo 2 cat back, dc header, and aem short ram and you can feel the difference but it is not all that....now that i have gone through that already i would rather go with saving up and going for hondata and the type s head and tranny and then get you i/h/e and you will really feel a difference..
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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so........ we can all be back on topic.

injen cai
toda race header
hks hi power. w/ money no object jic magic bullet spartan de type-1st
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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i forgot the money not being a problem thing...just go with the type s head and tranny and your good...hondata and then your done for a while until you feel the need for more power which you problably will
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