please give me a list. i need something powerful but at the same time i dont want to upgrade the valvetrain. ( i got ctr cams already so no OEM cams)

jun2
skunk2
buddyclub
rockets
crower
crane

its going into a b16a with ctr pistons. thanks for looking and thanks to all the helper in advance

 

whats the biggest cams i can run with this setup with valvetrain

AND

whats the biggest cams i can run with this setup WITHOUT valvetrain.

i just scare of valve clearence, let me know whats up

 

why be cheap?

is it worth it? good valvetrain is $250.

 

i dont want to upgrade when i dont need to.
i think ill be able to run some cams with out it, but just cant rev like crazy. ill probably shift at 8200 to be safe


where can i get cheap but good vavletrain, portflow?

 

me i would think any stage one cams would be fine..or just up ur valvetrain to itr's n run s2s2 cams

 

is it safe to rev to 8200 with S2S1 and no valve train upgrade?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91b16ef9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">me i would think any stage one cams would be fine..or just up ur valvetrain to itr's n run s2s2 cams</TD></TR></TABLE>

s2s2 cams have 12.3mm of lift on the intake and 11.8 on exhaust, do not run itr valvetrain with those cams, spend 250 bucks on a valvetrain if you wanna run anything more aggressive than your avg. stage 1 cam, even then you would want err on the side of safety and upgrade if plan to rev higher than stock rev limit

 

i would say a ctr/itr set up....makes good power too....with oem valvetrain

 

None.

 

IT'S WORTH GETTING VALVE VALVE TRAIN. BUT IF YOU DONT WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE THEN YOU SHOULD USE SKUNK2 STAGE 1 CAMS OR THE BLOX TYPE A CAMS....

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">None.</TD></TR></TABLE> best response ever !

 

I'd go with GSRs on Si valvetrain, and ITRs on GSR valvetrain.

A good valvetrain is worth it.

 

what will be a okay mix and match combination? ill lists cams and u list a cheap valvetrain for it.

skunk2 stg2= plowflow? itr?
skunk2 stg3=
jun2=
jun3=
m22=
buddyclub=

i want to spend about 150 on valve train and alot on cams

 

you need the valve train before the cams. why risk dropping a valve spend the money

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asocallocal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont want to upgrade when i dont need to.
i think ill be able to run some cams with out it, but just cant rev like crazy. ill probably shift at 8200 to be safe


where can i get cheap but good vavletrain, portflow?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its your car do whatever you want. but why would you ask for help and then not take the advise.

dont ask a question if you already have your mind made up.

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its your car do whatever you want. but why would you ask for help and then not take the advise.

dont ask a question if you already have your mind made up.


I DONT HAVE A SET UP IN MIND. I JUST NEED ONE THAT WILL BE WELL ROUNDED TO MY BE A PERMANENT VALVETRAIN BUT STILL UPGRADE CAMS. WHAT WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT? NO ONE SUGGESTED ME TO GET A CERTAIN BRAND OF VALVETRAIN AND THATS WHAT I NEED.

 

Rocket Motorsports Gen2 Springs and retainers would be good

 

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Like everyone said spend the extra money and get valve train and run what ever cams you want if money is an issue jus save up.

 

i just thought that all the valve train works the same therefore i thought why spend a lot just for a brand name when u can get another with the same specs for cheaper.

ill i got an offer for portflow inner spring and itr outter with ti retainer for 200 used. is that a good deal? will these be able to run skunk2 stg2-3 or jun2or3??

 

you may want to do alot more homework before you go out and spend your money

 

thats what i am trying to do BUT barely anyone is helping me.

At first i didnt want to buy any valvetrain, but now i guess its a must! help me find a vavletrain that will be capable of run different kinds of cams.

 

i too am interested in what kind of valvetrain will be suitable for skunk2 stage 2 cams

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asocallocal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats what i am trying to do BUT barely anyone is helping me.

At first i didnt want to buy any valvetrain, but now i guess its a must! help me find a vavletrain that will be capable of run different kinds of cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>

All i can say is that ive never heard ONE bad thing about omnpowers or Rockets valvetrain. Ill leave it at that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asocallocal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats what i am trying to do BUT barely anyone is helping me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

everyone is trying to help you..its just not safe to run high lift cams on stock valvetrain...at least change the valve springs if u dont wanna redo the whole valvetrain..

also if ur b16 is a 1st gen..then u need to swap out the lmas to either gsr/itr/prelude with a shim...the first gen lma's were not made with a large enough tip for high lift cams...

i know u wanna build a fast motor for cheap but..NA is expensive get used to it