I got a few reasons why i failed but a couple of them i dont uderstand why, one is

1. i have an aem smog legal inatek on my car, designed for a crx, and he said i cant use the one designed for a crx, he said i have to use the one designed for a del sol, I know alot of people who passed using the crx one, I dont understand why he didnt pass that.

2. I have a skunk2 manifold designed for a del sol or typer, or civic si, and he said that i cant use itbecause it doesnt have the evap purge sensor on the back, I dont understand how its smog legal if hes saying i cant use it because the evap purge is not on the back, do i need to buy a del sol intake manifold? if so how is the skunk2 one smog legal?

these are the only 2 things i had questions about , can you guys please help me out i have a court date coming up and have to have it fixed before then.

 

Put your air box back on and go to a different ref. I think since the skunk2 is carb legal they shouldn't have failed you for that.

 

yea i have the evap purge but its just in a different spot then on the del sols, he said i have to have it exactly like the del sols.

 

i think he will still fail me with the stock airbox because its not the stock del sol airbox

 

is your car wired up as a del sol (obd1) because if it is not your getting off easy. in san diego they are requiring the cars to be wired as a 94 del sol completely (ecu, distributor, intake manifold and all the sensors with it). if thats all the stuff you need to change do it before your ref becomes like ours in san diego

 

your ref is being a dick since the air box is NOT technically a part of the emission control devices.

 

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If it looks stock, they typically won't worry about it. But with an aftermarket piece, they WILL check the CARB number. And if it's wrong, you fail.

 

When I ref'd my B18c I used the stock 89 hatchback air box and connected to it with an LS air tube (arm) that had the two small hose hook-ups sealed.

I now have an AEM cold air intake on it that is "legal" to the original engine configuration (D16) and I know that it wouldn't pass the referee at this point as a result. It's not certified for the B18C engine. Ya, I think it's stupid, but that's how they view the law. I don't think the cops would worry about it due to having the CARB number on it. (plus I have the Ref sticker on the car)

As for the Skunk 2 manifold, it it's legal to the Del Sol, then you should have no problem! I have one on my B18c (I hate repeating that, but want to make it clear) and didn't have any problem with the Ref.

In reality, you are doing REAL well if you only have these two issues to address!!!

Wes

 

same story here, I ref'd my CRX with a B18C1 and used an older Akimoto exhaust for a GSR, as far as the Skunk manifold goes the REF is being ****.

I think you should try and either 1) talk to him before another appointment and try to point out the fact the since the manifold is a direct smog /carb exempt replacement it should be legal or 2) try another REF

 

yes i ahve it wired up as obd1, and the only reason he is saying the skunk2 manifold is not legal is because it doesnt have the place to mount the evap purge, which i would think it would because what would some one with a dels ol do, that bought a skunk2 manifold, they would have to mount it somewhere.

 

hes just bein a dick then

 

holy sh*t i feel bad for u cali guys u really have to deal with all that, damn

 

yeah its a pain..

just got my del sol intake in the other day!

 

hey bro, nice avatar..also..i live in 29 palms. right down the road in the true middle of nowhere.

take it to 29 palms. they are shady and dont know their *** from last wednesday. liek the guy above said..take it somewhere else.

 

where did u ref ur car bro...i ma getting mine ref too
my results was ....
CEL not property hooked up ( since i have the custom made on 2 plugs)
it needs to be on a jumper like the original del sol or obd-1 cars
also failed because of that...--- no aftermarketing slicing on ecu harness
the last 2 things was ---- fail on all test..high on everything and correct intake tube or seal the extra hold with intake cap.



sucks... cuz i got all the damn rite parts on my ****... p30 ecu/manifold t/b exhaust manifold obd-1 wiring

 

lol.

like I have said many times before, not all motors pass smog even though you have the correct **** don't mean your motor will pass

your motor if it runs clean if should pass with the orgrinal stuff my friends obd0 motor setup passed smog.. and u fools with p30 ecu and delsol manifold think Ohh its a delsol I will pass. doesn't work that way..
all this bs that is being spread when u change to p30 ecu and del sol manifold is bs

 

i took id to colledge of the desert in palm desert, i would have just gonwe to a normal smog shop, but i got pulled over in ontario, and they popped the hood and all that other crap, and sent me off to the ref

 

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like I have said many times before, not all motors pass smog even though you have the correct **** don't mean your motor will pass

your motor if it runs clean if should pass with the orgrinal stuff my friends obd0 motor setup passed smog.. and u fools with p30 ecu and delsol manifold think Ohh its a delsol I will pass. doesn't work that way..
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wow since u are the expert on smog , why don't u suggest something, damn i got all the rite parts, yea it's more important for visual, and if i don't even pass the visual, therr's no point of even smoging it at the ref. earlier this year, i pre-tested at my buddy's smog shop and i ran good-passed, but this time .duno what happen, i never said i expected it to pass cuz i had the right parts.

 

anyone know of any cool refs in so cal?

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asilaydying1984 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got a few reasons why i failed but a couple of them i dont uderstand why, one is

1. i have an aem smog legal inatek on my car, designed for a crx, and he said i cant use the one designed for a crx, he said i have to use the one designed for a del sol, I know alot of people who passed using the crx one, I dont understand why he didnt pass that.

2. I have a skunk2 manifold designed for a del sol or typer, or civic si, and he said that i cant use itbecause it doesnt have the evap purge sensor on the back, I dont understand how its smog legal if hes saying i cant use it because the evap purge is not on the back, do i need to buy a del sol intake manifold? if so how is the skunk2 one smog legal?

these are the only 2 things i had questions about , can you guys please help me out i have a court date coming up and have to have it fixed before then.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Answer #1 - the cai you use has to be designed for the motor in use.

Answer #2 - the Skunk 2 manifold CARB ID matches only Integra GSR in the CARB book

best bet is to run stock air box and 94-95 Del Sol VTEC (dohc) intake manifold just to pass bar, borrow it from a friend

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They're all cool, but you can't expect someone to risk loosing their job/career to let you slide for not following the rules

 

first, I know the intake has to match the motor, but what i am asking is what intake do i use, i dont think the del sol one will fit in the crx engine bay will it?

second the manifold numbers are for a delsol, civic si, or a type r , they are not for a gsr exept for the b17 gsr, the carb number is the same for all of those he says since my manifold doesnt have an evap purge on the back regardless of what my carb numbers say it is not smog legal, and he aalso says that the manifold has to have the carb numbers on the manifold , but it doesnt it comes with a sticker, so basically he isnt being cool, he also told me i should just get rid of my car and get a muscle car, thats definately not cool.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asilaydying1984 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first, I know the intake has to match the motor, but what i am asking is what intake do i use, i dont think the del sol one will fit in the crx engine bay will it?

second the manifold numbers are for a delsol, civic si, or a type r , they are not for a gsr exept for the b17 gsr, the carb number is the same for all of those he says since my manifold doesnt have an evap purge on the back regardless of what my carb numbers say it is not smog legal, and he aalso says that the manifold has to have the carb numbers on the manifold , but it doesnt it comes with a sticker, so basically he isnt being cool, he also told me i should just get rid of my car and get a muscle car, thats definately not cool.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes it will fit the crx engine bay.

i wasn't questioning the application, i was questioning if it had carb #'s designated to a del sol. if its aftermarket and affects emissions and doesn't have carb #'s than its not emissions legal in Cali. if you felt that he gave you a hard time you can report him, but i don't think he was giving you a hard time just because you had a non carb approved part on your car, thats just doin his job.

 

The manifold is legal, he is being a dick about that. Run a stock 88-91 civic/crx intake boot with airbox. Visit a different referee.