I'm putting together a Turbo kit for my 93 civic D15B2, and I just bought a partial turbo kit from e-bay. Included in the partial kit are:

*4 BOLT SUPER TURBO T3 .42 .48
*BRAND NEW GARRETT WHEEL - 2 YR WARRANTY
*STAINLESS MANIFOLD
*DOWN PIPE AND ACCESSORIES INCLUDED:
*BRAND NEW WASTEGATE
*WASTEGATE ADAPTOR
*MANDREL BENT PIPE ( INCLUDES O2 BUNG )
** ALSO INCLUDES CAP TO COVER UP
O2 BUNG IF YOU NEED IT **
*90 DEGREE ELBOW - TO PLACE WHERE YOU NEED IT
*TURBO FLANGE
*WASTEGATE BLOCKER
*BOLTS AND NUTS

Other than a high flow fuel pump, a blow off valve, the intercooler and the plumbing that goes with it, what else do I need?

 

dont need the fuel pump yet depending on your goals.

also need oil lines

 

might need a new manifold and turbo when the ones you have break. Can you post a link to the auction. if it is what I think it is, you will need to brace the turbo manifold. I havent heard good things about those turbos....again if it is who I think it is

 

The one that I bought is this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

If I do need a brace for the manifold, can I purchase it, or does it has to be a custom made?

The oil line is what I dont' understand. Where does it connect to? I know it goes from the Turbo to somewhere where there is oil pressure, like in the oil pan? Do I have to drill a hole?

 

sorry bro but that turbo is junk. get rid of it. its honestly pure garbage. they use like a poxy glue to hold their turbos together. they aren't really balanced. brace the manifold, you will need to custom brace it. get rid of the downpipe for a larger one. you have to tap into the oil pan for the turbo lines.. there is a guy here with a t3 .42 .48 for 200.

 

SSchromeshit sucks! I had a couple of buddies with crack manifolds and some other problems with kits from the seller, wouldnt buy from him.

 

there are a lot of ppl here who run braced manifolds and dont have any problems. their turbos though are crap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point3h22lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The one that I bought is this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

If I do need a brace for the manifold, can I purchase it, or does it has to be a custom made?

The oil line is what I dont' understand. Where does it connect to? I know it goes from the Turbo to somewhere where there is oil pressure, like in the oil pan? Do I have to drill a hole?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the brace has to be custom made. Do a search here and over at hommadeturbo.com Quite a few peopel have braced the manifold and it owrked great. As far as turbo

the ffed goes from the turbo to the oil pressure seding unit or oil filter location using an oil filter sandwich....then the oil return goes from the turbo to the oil pan

 

Does anyone has a picture of how to properly brace a manifold? I want to make sure I brace it the right way. One less thing to buys since I'm stuck with a crappy turbo.

 

That turbo kit is garbage. your dp is like a 1.5 inch. and its cheap metal. the manifold will crakc. and as far as the turbo its not that bad, but dnt plan on makeing alot of power. And yes you will have to drill a hole and make a nippe type flange. Dsm ones work great.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That turbo kit is garbage. your dp is like a 1.5 inch. and its cheap metal. the manifold will crakc. and as far as the turbo its not that bad, but dnt plan on makeing alot of power. And yes you will have to drill a hole and make a nippe type flange. Dsm ones work great.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think the turbo is the worst part of the kit. i think the manifold isn't bad at all if u brace it correctly and port out the inside so u dotn get any boost creep.

 

Well if the turbo is a garrett then he is straight. Also I dnt see how that kit is ac compatable, i have that same trash mani and it cracked on me after two months. Got it re welded, and braced it. but who knows.

 

And what about the air filter, what is compatible with this turbo kit?

Then there's the blow off valve, where do I mount this, and how? Do I just drill a hole anywhere on the intake piping/plumbing between the intake manifold and the intercooler?

Lastly where and how do I mount the connection for the boost gauge?

 

I think the pics are what sold the turbo to you. Look at em, all blingady bling bling tinkerbelly button ching chang crystalized flashy flash pics. Chrome looks sucks anyway.

 

engine management, injectors, gauges...

 

Part of it yes I think it look descent, combined that with the cheap price and the seller has mostly descent reviews which seemed to me that he's a trusted source.

I'm not expecting it to be perfect though since I'm not expecting to have a king of the hill civic. Just a mild sleeper that will kick the butts of some unprepared drivers of Opel's, BMW's, or VW Rabits here in Germany and cruise at 130 mph in the Autobahn.

 

What does Engine Management do?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point3h22lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And what about the air filter, what is compatible with this turbo kit?

Then there's the blow off valve, where do I mount this, and how? Do I just drill a hole anywhere on the intake piping/plumbing between the intake manifold and the intercooler?

Lastly where and how do I mount the connection for the boost gauge? </TD></TR></TABLE>
You will have to A. Get a small air filter the same size as the inlet. B. If not enough room, you will have to have a intake pipe.

The Blow off Valve Depends on which style you get. Some need flanges, and some need to have a extension pipe.

The Boost gauge is connected at the manifold.

 

Check this thread. Basically tells you step by step how to turbo a car.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1263795

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point3h22lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What does Engine Management do?</TD></TR></TABLE>
more fuel most importantly, and some other stuff too. Chip your ecu, and dl uberdata. Get some injectors,oil lines, and the stuff you listed, should be fine, for now.

 

i wouldn't be surprised if the turbo cracked after 15 miles. that one guy on here drove down the street and it fucked up.

the turbo isn't a garret

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sped rcr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check this thread. Basically tells you step by step how to turbo a car.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1263795</TD></TR></TABLE>


This is an awsome thread, thanks a lot speed racer. This answered most of my questions and now more comfortable in installing this turbo.

The only thing that I need now is the picture of a braced manifold. Does anyone has a link or a copy of a picture of a braced manifold? I'd really that, it's the only thing I need for now.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16aDasher &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">more fuel most importantly, and some other stuff too. Chip your ecu, and dl uberdata. Get some injectors,oil lines, and the stuff you listed, should be fine, for now.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess I should have asked this initially, most importantly, where does the engine management hook up to? Does it replace the ECU?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point3h22lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What does Engine Management do?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Engine Management allows you to control the way your engine does things. Ignition retard/advance, AFR's, VTEC engagement (if you have it). Those are the only things I can think of right now.

Basically Honda ECU's are complete **** when it comes to boost. They were built to be economic, NA only cars. When you add boost to a Honda ECU you get chaos.

So you get an EMS like uberdata that is capable of running your motor under boost. As you add boost you have to retard your ignition as to not get detonation. You change the ammount of fuel the injectors pump out to get a good AFR. If you run too lean you have a chance of your pistons getting too hot and melting and your cylinder walls cracking or deforming. Too rich and the gas washes the oil off the cylinder walls and having bad gas economy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point3h22lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess I should have asked this initially, most importantly, where does the engine management hook up to? Does it replace the ECU?</TD></TR></TABLE>

check out pgmfi.org. If you use a free-ware program like uberdata or crome you can got to moates and buy a burner, chips, and the installation hardware.

It doesn't replace the ECU, just ignores the stock chip from Honda. At pgmfi you can find how to "chip" the ECU. Its basically adding capacitors and resistors to your stock ecu, alonge with a ZIF socket to put your own chip in.

Then you download uberdata, download a basemap from someone with a similar setup as yours, you burn it onto the chip that you bought from moates and then you put the chip into your ecu.

You can run your car off of the basemap, but its not reccomended because no car is going to be tuned the exact same way as another one. It's to give you a starting point to tune your car. Some people will tell you its fine, but almost anyone else you ask will yell at you to get your car tuned.

You will aslo want to get a wideband O2, and probably a datalogging cable when you order the uberdata hardware. That way you can street tune your car if you are capable of it, if not you don't need the data-logging.

You could also look into an AEM ems ($1500) or Hondata. I've never used either of them, but they are both supposed to be good systems. A lot of people will tell you to go Uber over Hondata because Uber is cheaper and you can do all the tuning yourself.