I just did a track day at Pacific Raceways with the Porsche Club NW last Saturday.

This spring, I installed the Endyne PCV breather system in the effort to reduce oil consumption at the track (I was typically using about 2 liters of oil every track day). I also knew that I was seriously taxing the stock system since my car is so modified.

Seen here: http://www.theoldone.com/components/breather/





One major thing I notice now with my car is the top end is way more lively - especially in 4th and 5th gear. My car just pulls and pulls even in 5th.

I am now entering Turn 1 at 140mph - which is something I've never been able to do before....it is quite scary to say the least - considering you have to stay on the gas through that turn unless you want lift throttle oversteer.

Oil consumption is down to 1 liter and I don't have a black rear bumper any more. I also noticed my fuel consumption is down too (?)

Amazing....

I highly recommend it for anyone using aftermarket cams and high compression.






Modified by Big Phat R at 6:17 PM 6/7/2005

 

Good write-up. I was looking at that unit a month or so ago. I think you just sealed the deal for me. Thanx

 

how much is this setup and where did you get it from?

 

Anyone with a stock motored ITR use this unit?

 

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This is my next mod too. We should team up and see if Garage 5 will give us a deal.

 

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also would like to know this as well!

 

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I bought mine locally - but they just ordered it direct from Endyne

http://www.theoldone.com/components/breather

Cost is $164.00

You can probably make it yourself from the Moroso parts and buying the hoses separately.

The catchcan does require fabbing up some sort of mounting bracket as well - as you can see in my engine bay it was positioned close to the battery.

The nice part about this catchcan system is that is re-routes the oil back to the motor.

 

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For sure. They hook it up for me pretty good @ G5. I bill all my vehicle mods through my company since it's a company car and they give me wholesale deals. Let me know and I can do it through all through my company

 

Nice writeup. Ironic timing since I just ordered that, along with the kamikaze header.

 

I would be interested as well....

 

Dammit,,, Something else to spend money on.

How about a GB on this so maybe a few of us could save $ ???

 

my guess is.. oil consumption is down to 1 liter due to its being introduced back inside the block instead of being burned.. thats fine cause you don't want oil in a/f mixture.. however, i can't see why same results can't be accomplished by keeping stock separator box and pcv and just venting to atmosphere..

you're still contaminating IM through valve cover vent, maybe if you add a check valve to vent under pressure between valve cover and intake, that may reduce contamination and still have vacuum assisted ventilation. thats what i use in my boosted setup (check valve as a vent).. my valve cover vent is open at all times.. pcv valve goes to catch can then theres a t fiting with check valve that vents under wot, from there it goes to another check vavle that prevents the boost from entering engine, then it goes to IM.

 

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How about a GB on this so maybe a few of us could save $ ???</TD></TR></TABLE>

with exception of catch can, you can get all this parts at honda and plumbing hardware store for almost nothing.

let me do some math right here.. i run jaz catch can and it comes with filter and it has a drain lever. plugs can't be more than few dollars from honda, then multi purpose oil resistant hoses are $1/foot, and i recommend to use brass instead of plastic fittings

 

Where did you run the hoses?

 

OT: What is that wire like thing running from the hood latch to (presumably) the hood?

 

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this is my latest setup.. not much differnt other than additional vent (check valve) added. this don't quite apply to n/a but check valve as additional vent can be applied to n/a setup

 

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For 2 vacuum end caps, a few feet of fuel line, and 2 empty coke bottles, you can do the same thing and see how much oil is coming out.

(for those with a stock PCV, and overfilling oil in the motor, it is a LOT OF OIL on a road course.)

 

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I would like to know also.

 

What fitting did you use for plugging the vacuum nipple on the intake manifold?

Have you tried it without using the breather filter and running a closed system? I'd guess performace would be no better than stock then because the crankcase would not be ventilated any better then stock?

 

Glad to see you finally acted on getting "canned" Jon ...... only took about 2yrs....hehe

It's my understanding that even if you run a closed setup...it will still be a better system since the block is now able to vent from the two conveniently located plugs that are opened up in the back of the block.

(anybody ever wonder why they were put there in the 1st place? ...mystery.... )

With the catchcan being larger than stock...and I assume better baffled or about the same or better inside vs. OEM, you're likely to trap/catch more oily vapors than the stock setup.

I really like how the system can be run in street (emissions) mode and race/filter mode.


Oh and the cap on the intake manifold is just a vacuum plug.... u can pretty much get it anywhere..... silicone or rubber will do....or if you are really ghetto and stuck.... a section of hose with a large enuff bolt so it is impossible to get sucked in plus silicone for a good seal.

 

You can get the catch can at any local speed shop or Jegs or Summit for about $60, the 2 block tube fittings come from the H22 so you get them from Honda and I think they ran me about $7 each and the freeze plug you can get at a local parts store for a buck or so.

 

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Oh and the cap on the intake manifold is just a vacuum plug.... u can pretty much get it anywhere..... silicone or rubber will do....or if you are really ghetto and stuck.... a section of hose with a large enuff bolt so it is impossible to get sucked in plus silicone for a good seal.
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On the second pic in the initial post there's a red hose going from the vacuum nipple on the IM. Any idea why there's a hose there and simply not just a small plug to seal it?

 

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Have you tried it without using the breather filter and running a closed system? I'd guess performace would be no better than stock then because the crankcase would not be ventilated any better then stock?
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I ran this way (recirculated, but with a check-valve bypass for while I was in boost).

Not as much performance benefit, but a big safety benefit. When you're sucking oil into your motor, the effective octane rating drops by 10+ points (or so I was told).

You can see video of some cars going around turn 5/6 at Expo and letting out huge clouds of smoke. I bet this is oil being sucked into the PCV.

Pep Boys by me sells vacuum line caps (conveniently). 3/8ths inch size. Buy a tiny hose clamp to hold it on, too.

-Chris

 

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Thats for his flux capacitor (FPR).

 

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Yup, that's exactly what I had before I switched to an open-air breather.

You may want to point your breather check valve down into an empty bottle, just in case, while on a track.