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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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I parked my car Saturday night around 3 AM, armed it as usual. Didn't touch it until about 5 PM Sunday.

I disarm, get in, turn the key and the ignition cycles on and off. Like this:
ON--------ON---------ON---------ON----------ON--------ON---------ON---------ON


About off for two or 3 seconds and on for about .5 seconds.


Anyone know if this is brain failure? It was 90 degree out on Sunday and my car is black, so its possible that the heat could have caused some damage.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra-modder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I parked my car Saturday night around 3 AM, armed it as usual. Didn't touch it until about 5 PM Sunday.

I disarm, get in, turn the key and the ignition cycles on and off. Like this:
ON--------ON---------ON---------ON----------ON--------ON---------ON---------ON


About off for two or 3 seconds and on for about .5 seconds.


Anyone know if this is brain failure? It was 90 degree out on Sunday and my car is black, so its possible that the heat could have caused some damage.</TD></TR></TABLE> I assume the alarm is wired to some kind of ign. kill or bypass, if so try rebooting the alarm, disconnect the batt. neg. term. wait 5 min. then reconnect the batt. see what happens.

Heat is one of the things that can have a neg. effect on the alarm brain, that's why they tell you not to mount the brain close to a heat source. 94
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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Already tried that to no avail....

Im hoping just letting it sit for a while will let it fix itself....

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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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Do you have an ign. kill/bypass wired to the alarm, if so and it is wired for normally open, it may be a bad relay or a poor connection from the alarm to the relay, or a poor 12v+ connection to the relay. 94
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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Its a Clifford AG4 system. Its got all its relay's built in. This is why I think its the brain that went. It goes on and off in a very systematic / rythmic way, suggesting to me that its not something mechanical.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra-modder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its a Clifford AG4 system. Its got all its relay's built in. This is why I think its the brain that went. It goes on and off in a very systematic / rythmic way, suggesting to me that its not something mechanical.</TD></TR></TABLE> Even though it may have "all" its relays built in, off board relays can be added, and it sounds to me like you have a relay in the ign. wire, [off board or on board] and you may be right. it may be the "brain" that "went", but I have seen bad relays and/or bad connections that made the relay open and close in a very " systematic/rythmic" way, if the relay for the ign. bypass is inside the brain or the problem is the brain, all you can do is pull the brain and send it in for repair, if on the other hand the ign. bypass relay is off board, [added relay] and the problem is in that relay or it's wiring then it can be replaced or the wiring repaired, you will have to look up under the dash an see where the ign. wire, [black/yellow on all integras] has been cut, and the ign. bypass relay has been wired, [on board or off board] and check the connections and the relay if it's off board. 94
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Even though it may have "all" its relays built in, off board relays can be added, and it sounds to me like you have a relay in the ign. wire, [off board or on board] and you may be right. it may be the "brain" that "went", but I have seen bad relays and/or bad connections that made the relay open and close in a very " systematic/rythmic" way, if the relay for the ign. bypass is inside the brain or the problem is the brain, all you can do is pull the brain and send it in for repair, if on the other hand the ign. bypass relay is off board, [added relay] and the problem is in that relay or it's wiring then it can be replaced or the wiring repaired, you will have to look up under the dash an see where the ign. wire, [black/yellow on all integras] has been cut, and the ign. bypass relay has been wired, [on board or off board] and check the connections and the relay if it's off board. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

There are no off-board relays in the alarm installation except for the one to trigger my 555U module and clutch during remote start. I know this because I installed it myself. I was trying to think of any kind of input that would cause the clifford to do this and could not think of anything.

I sent the unit out to Clifford yesterday after talking with their tech support who told me to send the brain in for a check. Hopefully this will fix my problem.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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well if you need a brain there's one on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...=WDVW

or a new ag4

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...=WDVW
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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Thanks,

They fixed it under warranty. I think it was my intellistart that actually failed, but they replaced both free of charge other than the shipping costs to them, which work paid for anyway...


To whoever PM'ed me. I lost your screen name because HT removed it from the history. Thanks for the offer. Good luck with eBay.
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