Hey guys,

I would like to have your opinion on coil overs for my type R. I do a lot of lapping and solo and I would like to lower my car also. I have no experience in suspension tuning, so I would like a kit that does not require a lot of adjustments to have good performance. ALso, any suggestion on place to buy it that would help me in the adjustment of the suspension (like corner weight)

Thanks

 

I've heard good things about the Omni Power coilovers. Chris F might chime in with his experience at Expo 5. I rode along with him, and his car felt great.

 

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Yeah, Omni 12K/10K is a nice choice. Definitely economical too. Neutral handling with OEM ITR swaybars. Full coilover (threaded shock body), you can lower it super far if you like. I'm "slizzamed". Well, not really.

You can watch videos of my car, it keeps up OK in the twisties. Nice and predictable handling, doesn't mind jumping curbs and such.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1263710


I never cornerweighed mine. I just set them to equal length.

Also, any alignment shop with proper tools can get you aligned. 0 toe all around is pretty good for the street. Toe the front out, if you don't mind chewing up tires just a little faster, it'll turn in a little better and reduce understeer/induce oversteer. You can search for that stuff in here and RR/AX.

I would drop it an inch and take whatever negative camber that buys you. Camber is generally good for the track. Again, same caveat for chewing up street tires.

 

Get bilstein type r shocks, 400f/600r eibach springs, and some ground control coil over sleeves.

 

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^^ btw, I recon Ground Control will be the consensus if you poll 100 people in RR/AX forum. More might suggest Koni's than Bilstein, but whatever floats your boat.



-Chris

 

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I think GK runs this setup...or a 500/700 setup.

FYI Chris: I'd rather go with Bilsteins, albeit not damper adjustable... unless you can fab some perches for the rear konis.

 

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I think GK runs this setup...or a 500/700 setup.
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Actually I run custom valved Showa.

In the <u>past</u>, I have run Koni Yellow and GC with 400 F / 500 R and I can certainly recommend those spring rates as a very nice, first step to a track suspension.

Some of my friends prefer Bilsteins to the Koni, and the Bilstein seem to be a little heavier duty. Either is fine, now that the Koni spring perch problem is solved.

If you go to My Gallery and then go into the directory that is titled Light Springs, you can see what Koni and 400/500 looks like on the track at speed.

 

Konis and ground controls, best deal for the money

I have 450f/650r rates on mine and the car is perfect for my driving style

Almost all Honda Challenge people use the koni ground control set up, including my honda challenge car.

I rode in a type R with 400/500 before with konis and it was nice also, but not as much oversteer with throttle modulation as in my car

you can get konis here on honda tech for pretty cheap, too

 

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I have 450f/650r rates on mine and the car is perfect for my driving style

Almost all Honda Challenge people use the koni ground control set up, including my honda challenge car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm.

OK, just a quick note that if you go over 500# with OEM valving on Koni Yellow, you will be drastically shortening the life of the damper.

I'm sure you do know a lot of Honda Challenge people using Koni, but I don't think they're using out of the box Koni Yellow with their 1000# springs.

Koni makes dampers and will re-valve Yellow with valving designed for competition use and heavy springs, combinations that will cause the out of box Koni Yellow to fail.

That's why some people prefer Bilstein...they're not adjustable, but they can handle springs a little heavier than the out of box Koni Yellow.

 

sorry to butt into this thread, but what do you guys think of h&r sport springs w/koni shocks? i occasionally autocross and will probably not go to a tracking day unless i have some instructors on hand. the only reason i ask is that my shocks may be due for replacement and was wondering if it'd be a good idea to upgrade shocks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm.

OK, just a quick note that if you go over 500# with OEM valving on Koni Yellow, you will be drastically shortening the life of the damper.

That's why some people prefer Bilstein...they're not adjustable, but they can handle springs a little heavier than the out of box Koni Yellow.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Running 600/800 on bilsteins. Feels awesome on the track, and still "streetable" lol.