The first prototype Philips HID Kit (9005) has been installed on my car for over a month now. The light intensity produced is AMAZING. To my knowledge this kit is the only one in existence for the Integra. Trevor, a licensed distributor of Philips HID kits (www.visualdynamics.ca) is the individual who constructed this prototype. For those of you who don’t remember, he had a very successful group buy for the Philips low beam kit last summer.

The bulbs are the same type as the low beams - D2S, 4300K, 3200lm light output. The ballast are the same too. The only difference is a slightly redesigned wiring harness and bulb base for proper fitment. FYI - The 6000K bulbs actually produce less light (2800lm) at the sacrifice of a whiter/bluer look.

Light output is easily 2-3 times brighter than the stock Integra halogens. The beam pattern is very precise and surprisingly focuses for the amount of light being emitted. There are no dark areas on the road where the light fails to illuminate. Even the ditches and trees lining the road are super visible.

When the high beam HID's are initially turned on they go through that brief 3-5 second warm up period. They change from the blue color to a mostly white hue. The light intensity noticeably increases during this warm up period - something that is not as apparent with the HID low beams. Flipping the HID high beam kit on and off (a necessary task) is not a problem. I have switched them on and off 200-300 times during the first month my car has been equipped with them and they never fail to ignite.

The high beam HID's "appear" to be brighter than the low beams. The illusion is probably created by the overlapping sets of HID's. This combination is extremely effective and also unique considering that virtually no other production car in the world offers HID high beam lights.

The pictures do a good job of displaying the color comparison between the stock halogen’s and HID’s but the HID’s are much brighter than the pictures and video indicate.

More comparison pictures at different angles
http://66.66.68.50/philips_high_beam_vs_stock2.jpg
http://66.66.68.50/philips_high_beam_vs_stock3.jpg

Philips HID high beam only
640x480
http://66.66.68.50/philips_hid_high_beam_640.jpg
1024x768
http://66.66.68.50/philips_hid_high_beam_1024.jpg

Passenger Side Ballast
http://66.66.68.50/passenger_ball.jpg
Drivers Side Ballast
http://66.66.68.50/driver_ball.jpg

The Videos
http://66.66.68.50/philips_high_low_close.mov
http://66.66.68.50/twin_hids_front.mov
http://66.66.68.50/twin_hids_road.mov

Trevor wanted me to find out how many Integra owners are interested in this Philips kit. He could arrange a group buy, assuming enough people participate. He’s not exactly sure how much they would cost but assume a price in the ballpark of the last group buy for the low beam kit - well below retail. If you have any questions post them here and I’ll do my best to answer them.

 

I would be interested. Is there any idea on pricing?

 

wops forget about that second question...I didnt read to the end of the post.

 

my concern is, what about when you have to flash people in a case of emergency or what not? the hid light up is a litte...slow for lack of a better word

 

$425 - $490 range: The more people interested the lower the price.

 

ohh pish popoo poo dosent take that long. I just saw the video and if we can do it for about 400ish on a group buy count me in.

 

Actually they ignite faster and brighter than halogens. It may take them a couple seconds to reach maximum brightness but even the initial light burst is <U>considerably</U> brighter than the stock bulbs. Those of you who have the low beam HID's know what I mean.

 

Too bad my high beams are H1

 

Mmmmm.... pretty lights.

Nah, seriously, HIDs are killer! I compared my PIAA Superwhites to Josh's HID lows this past summer. It's like comparing a Bic lighter to the sun. Uh, ok, not quite, but you get the picture.

 

acutally the 9005 kits have been out for awhile. You just have to call the right person. When I was in Japan, they had almost every style on hand. The new thing I noticed in Japan was light bulb conversions which will make say a 9006 headlight to a H1, etc...

 

I believe the newer Mercedez S-class as well as the new Porsche Turbos have HID lights for both low & high beam.

 

Josh, wow! is all i can say about the diffrence! i cannot wait to see it in person, must be impresive! i don't know about you pictures, i think one might be slightly off center great write up.

nate

 

The 9005 HID highbeam kit looks awesome Flashing the highbeams won't be a problem IMO because the blueish light from an unwarmed HID is still far brighter than any halogen highbeams. Keep in mind that the HID light is aimed up high, and the problem of people not seeing the highbeams is almost non-existent. The distinct bluish light (during the warming up) will also distinguish between the "already warmed up" HID lowbeams, so it will be very easy to spot a flashing HID high beam.

 

All you need now is HIDs in your OEM Foglights!


Looks sweet by the way!

 

I think the "flashing" problem is why we have not seen the Xenon high beams sooner. The warm up time was an issue. I believe on the new BMW Bi-Xenon cars(ie: lo and high beam Xenon lights). The high beam is on ALL the time and there is basically a little shutter that flips up and down(or opens and closes..have not seen it yet). Being a non-filament bulb though, they can get away with having it on all the time as the run time on Xenon bulbs is much greater than halogens.

 

Maybe he should set up another group buy pricing... $400 for xx number of people. I don't think this will be as hot seller as the last one. I, maybe, use my high-beams about a dozen times a year...

 

ahhhhh...the HID craze continues.

 

6000K high beams would be sweet!

 

That is absolutely correct, light output is measured in Lumens, there has'nt been much mentioned re: how many lumens a 6000k bulb would produce. Although it has a higher temperature rating (6000 Kelvins), it is definitely hotter, however this does not mean the light output would be any brighter than a 4300K xenon bulb, It is only whiter.

These HID High beams will definitely change the Integras overall output for the lighting system. From the videos Josh took, it almost looks like a 200% increase over the stock output.

As soon as Trevor initiates another group buy, I am definitely in!


[Modified by Darryl Mussashi, 9:08 AM 2/9/2002]

 

Are you trying to cause trouble Nate? You know I'm a perfectionist!

If I could I would. The OEM Fog lights are useless now. I hardly ever turn them on anymore, however they do look cool during the day just sitting there.
Besides it would cost more to uninstall them and sell the fogs than they are worth used.

 

I know of more than a few bimmer folks who have done high/low/fog HIDs, so i'm sure its just a matter of finding the right bulbs wiring and what not.

 

what about legal issues? also, wouldn't you blind the f*k out of other people?

 

So, Josh you have 4300 in your 9006 (Low Beam) and 6000 in your 9005 for your (High Beam)?

 

About HIDs in your Foglight isn't the blub that inside the foglight H-4? If, so check this out. They make HIDs for H-4 blubs. http://www.autolamps-online.com/appl...ondacentre.htm

 

From my initial post above: