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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Default How many Horses can i get out of a SOHC motor?

I have a stock d16b7 motor that i would like to mod...But i dont know what to bolt on...Any suggestions? I can spend around..1000$-1800$. And i need to maximized horsepower..
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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well if you have a b7, it is a d15, if you have a d16 it is a z6....but besides the point, with that money you could probably build a homemade turbo setup and maybe put down 200whp safetly with good tuning.

If you have the d15b7 i would advise either a mini-me(getting a vtec head) or getting a whole d16z6 swap, then putting on a turbo....if you build it i have seen over 400whp on a SOHC turbo
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiccpedx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">400whp on a SOHC turbo </TD></TR></TABLE>

400whp on a sohc are you ******* serious? Wow that's the first time I've heard/read that. Anyways aside from that with $1,800 you can get a decent b16a motor but you'd probably have to swap it yourself cause shops over charge for 5-6hrs work. Good luck man...
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cboy1-EG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">400whp on a sohc are you ******* serious? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes he is serious. Not in the $1000-1800 price range. That much power has been made on stock sleeves too.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Do not spend anything on your B7. I had one of those before and I thought spending on headers, intake, exhaust and straight piping would be a great difference but it turned out to be not. Save your money bro and get a swap.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Why not just turbo his stock b7? $1800 could piece together a pretty nice turbo kit and buy some good management.

Putting together a mini-me or getting a z6 would probably not leave him with enough to get a turbo.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1cleanEJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do not spend anything on your B7. I had one of those before and I thought spending on headers, intake, exhaust and straight piping would be a great difference but it turned out to be not. Save your money bro and get a swap. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Of course minor blot-ons won't do much, the engine is made for economy.

Go for turbo b7!!
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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i would save up for a b series, and btw, ive seen a 350 hp d16z6 it was hot
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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Why just invest that $1,800 wisely into like a b16a... B16a's got sooooo much cheaper and I think he can easily pick one up for that price if he looked a bit. You just gotta know the right people as well...
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FarOutCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ive seen a 350 hp d16z6 it was hot</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've seen a 400hp d16z6.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've seen a 4000hp d16z6. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No way 4000hp!?!? Hahaha j/p...
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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not as much as a DOHC
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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400 horsepower d16:

rrussell -- 418whp 314wtq
D16z6 built bottom end and head -- T3/T4 54 trim .63AR -- 22psi and 70 shot -- Haltech w/ 72lb. injectors
first one on the list:

http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=4140

any questions? of course its possible. Anything is possible. Just how much $$$ you got. You want to fly to the moon? Sure, just make sure you got the $$$ ready and call up the Russians.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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well if you decide to build your current motor, atleast buy a vtec head " z6 or y8 ".
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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go for turbo. can safely run5-8 psi for a long time if tuned properly. of course I'm not safe.

93 ex d16z6 199whp 191wtq at 10 psi.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Go to homemadeturbo.com and check out some of their build... You can get a used greddy turbo kit and hondata or uberdata or Crome and be smoking stock b series swaps all day long for under $2000... You don't necessarily need vtec with boost either it just adds another aspect to the tuning... My d16y7 dynod at 197whp/185tq @ 10psi without vtec...

Boost that bitch......

No other bolt ones will give you the dollar to hp ratio that boost will... You need at least a 25hp increase to feel something on the butt dyno.. If it doesn't give you 25 don't bother with it.. I could do 150whp with 200 tq... Don't be too concerned about actual hp numbers its the torque that you feel..... A 200whp na car is apples to oranges to a 200whp FI car...
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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People keep arguing about swap or keep. It is totally up to you, depending how much power you want to make.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L337HXR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">400 horsepower d16:

rrussell -- 418whp 314wtq
D16z6 built bottom end and head -- T3/T4 54 trim .63AR -- 22psi and 70 shot -- Haltech w/ 72lb. injectors
first one on the list:

http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=4140

any questions? of course its possible. Anything is possible. Just how much $$$ you got. You want to fly to the moon? Sure, just make sure you got the $$$ ready and call up the Russians.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have an import racer mag that shows them building a B16 to 480 whp and 360 lb-ft on 22 lbs w/o spray.

Moral is, upgrade for upgrade, you will always make more power with a dual cam because they have more power out of the box and they are more tunable because of two cams instead of one.

-Shane
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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You also have a high inital investment. Thats in the hole several thousand that he could have spent building his motor.


Ive had three B motors and 2 D motors. Personally, i say turbo it and spend the money youd spend on a swap making it a lot faster than a swap. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with a D series. You can build it for 1600 and make it rock solid. Peace of mind is nice, especially if youre making a lot of power.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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I'm sorry but w/ the money it takes just turbo the d or buy the swap. building the d is pointless unless u are trying to street race for money no one cares what's under your hood just how fast u r. so tubo it stock w/ b series that can be daily driven at 450whp on stock internals or build the poop out of the d- series and make 420whp tough choice in my book. don't get me wrong the d makes alot more torque than expected (makes a nice sleeper) but the b series is soo much harder to kill especially trans wise.
either way its all in as far as you want to go w/car. i'm getting ready to sell my entire d series turbo setup and go for the b just because I know I won't be happy until I'm pushing 650whp on a daily driver.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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I've seen a 500hp D series

some people might remeber still andy yang's crx from the late 90's

I recommend you sell your motor and get a b16 WITH WITH WITH AN LSD

I cannot tell you how many people think horsepower is better than traction on here. - they are all wrong
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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you should know *** **** your name is sohc sleeper.......(stock) ricer
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cboy1-EG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why just invest that $1,800 wisely into like a b16a... B16a's got sooooo much cheaper and I think he can easily pick one up for that price if he looked a bit. You just gotta know the right people as well... </TD></TR></TABLE>

you are an idiot. and $1800 turbo setup on a D will run circles around a stock b16. why spend all that money and have it feel like a d until 5000 rpm.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Stock d series in a coupe for example runs maybe high-mid 16, so turbo would be high 14 to low 15 with some bolt ons. A swapped jdm B16 into a coupe will run at least as fast (I have run a 14.3 with mine).

-Shane
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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If you only have 1800 I would say turbo the B7, but you wont be able to get much more power out of it in the future.

If you are gonna invest even more money in your car soon, then get a B16 and work on it a step at a time.

Initially the boosted D is gonna have a little more punch than the stock B, but wont have a fraction of the future potential.
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