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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Default Falken Azenis RT-615 in the rain

How well do the Azenis RT-615s perform in wet conditions? My Yokohama AVS ES100s seem to be more confidence-inspiring in the rain than they are in the dry, especially with a lot of tread. Has anyone else found this? There are a ton of posts about the old Azenis not being so good in the rain.. so my question is: are these just a little better or actually really good? Thanks!


Tires.com states:
•Next generation Azenis RT spec pure sports performance.

•Improved motorsports grade cap compound maintains grip over a wide range of operating temperatures.

Increased internal void ratio delivers enhanced wet grip and aquaplane resistance under competition conditions.
•8/32nd molded tread design reduces tread squirm when new while providing predictable mileage for street use.

•200/A/A UTQG qualifies for SCCA Street Tire Class competition

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Are you asking about driving when its WET... or driving through puddles/standing water?

people confused Falken RT-215 wet performance (fine as long as you have tread) with standing water performance (which is bad imo).

i know you asked about 615, but im assuming the question stems from all the 'azenis are not good in the rain' threads over the past 2-3-4 years. and well... not a lot of data on the 615 yet, which is why i mentioned 215.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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I suppose I'm interested in the performance/safety in both wet and standing water conditions. The fact that they say: enhanced wet grip and aquaplane resistance under competition conditions, implies they would do well driving fast in unpredictable conditions, not that I'm looking to dry fast in the rain. I'm wondering if they are more of a combination of the Azenis dry and Yoko wet performance. I know they are very different tires, but in this case it seems relevent to compare them.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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Good question for sure. Just wanted to clarify for those that might have first hand experience
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr341 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> enhanced wet grip and aquaplane resistance under competition conditions, implies they would do well driving fast in unpredictable conditions</TD></TR></TABLE>

No! it doesn't mean that they will "do well', it means that they will "do better" than those types of tires have done before ... and the fact that they mention "competition conditions" should give people some clue to what they meant.

Its not like they said "these are replacements for Blizzaks". LOL!
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No! it doesn't mean that they will "do well', it means that they woll "do better" than those types of tires have done before ... and the fact that they mention "competition conditions" should give people some clue to what they meant.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is what I'm trying to find out. I was reffering to that because if they work well in competition(high speed straights/cornering) that would translate well to the street.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr341 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ... if they work well in competition(high speed straights/cornering) that would translate well to the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not at all!
Racers are accustomed to driving under the worst of conditions with the least bit of tread on their tires (unless they're set up for full wet conditions with some Hoosier dirt track(er)/wet tires.

You've got to be a bit more reasonable/suspicious in you'r analysis of these sales introductions.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not at all!
Racers are accustomed to driving under the worst of conditions with the least bit of tread on their tires (unless they're set up for full wet conditions with some Hoosier dirt track(er)/wet tires.

You've got to be a bit more reasonable/suspicious in you'r analysis of these sales introductions. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks! I mentioned that because I was suspicious and wanted to hear people's real-world reactions. You have a good point about racer's skill.
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