I came across a picture when i was reading about force induction on honda and acuras. What interested me was this integra having this style of force induction. I was wondering if crx could be done the same way. Take a look

 

i have to ask.... why????

 

we'll first off, when it comes to force induction, people do crazy *** ****. So i thought seeing this as an UNSUAL setup that it might perform a little better?

 

well u d have a sleeper engine bay and theres no need for a intercooler, i saw that in some tuner mag its kinda neat but kinda not i guess

 

Thats one of those STS turbo systems....cool if theres space issues for a normal turbo but from what I've seen its not as good.

 

what kind of car is that?

 

i don't see it as a sleeper, that thing can be seen from behind the car. too much piping. and the filter is subject to dirt.

its something different but i just don't see the advantage,

and to answe the original question, yes it can be done.

 

Someone correct me if Im wrong... But I thought it was for passing a visual inspection at a ref station... ? Not sure about smog, or emissions laws... But isnt it against the law to boost in some states or something? I seem to remember someone hiding the fact they had turbo and freaking cuz the BOV went off by a cop...

 

I rember reading some place that this kinda set up actually has some benifits but i dont rember exactly what they are. I think the setup was on a Porshe.

 

yes, but as soon as the ref tried to stick the probe on the tail pipe he'll see the snail.

porshe has the motor in the rear.

 

someone's really trying to get a better front to rear weight ration...

 

seen something lik ethis before...

 

Yes, it can. BUT WHY!!! Look at the size of that turbo..big. Look at how long the pipes are before the air reaches the turbo, than the long trip back. MAJOR lag.
I dont see how you could drive in the rain anymore either. From another perspective it would be stupid stupid stupid easy to fab one up, probly fairly inexpensive to but it is different

 

garbage imo

 

saw that in the new Honda Tuning. I think it would get f*cked up if you go over speedbumps or drive in bad weather

 

actually we use it a lot on the f bodies, the gm turcks, toyota trucks. we got three of them locally and three more in alberta. im the canadian dealer for the remote mount kits. http://www.canadianhighperformance.ca

they work well, one of the integra owners is on here, his car dynoed at 267 whp at 6 psi i believe.

and the lag is the same as if it were a front mount kit. the turbo is sized properly. for vids see there website http://www.ststurbo.com

there are a lot of benfits, lower hood temps, retain stock exhaust, retain ac, retain stock rad, retain the windsheild washer fluid resivoir, less wieght off the front of the car, installs in under 6 hours, increased fuel milage just to name a few.

this set up isnt for you if you have a drop of more then 2 inches. 2 inches and less no issues, unless you drive like a idiot over bumps.

and there has been no issues of driving in the rain or anything, theses kits have been out for about 3 years now, won last years sema design award.

kit retains the cat, and is expected to get carb approval soon. passes emmisions tests as well.

crx civic can be done the same way, will be doing it to mine when im done the trans am project.

downside is cost, about as much as the edelbrock, greddy kits.

you cant fab one up, the sizing will almost never be right, and the kit uses a remote oil pump to pump the oil back to the motor. ive had many emails of people who want to buy just the oil kit, but there not sold separatly.


the kit works well and produces plenty of power, so please dont post uneducated posts like tons of lag, garbage, stupid etc.

on 5 psi kit made 393 rwhp and 418 ftlbs/tq on a 02 trans am that had a basline of 300rwhp. not bad for a days of down time.

 

^^^

Wouldn't be for me, but you have my respect for doing something dfferent, and doing it right.

 

interesting

 

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yea I've seen this type of setup on most porshes cuz they're rear engine and I dont think theres a lot of room in the engine bay for the turbos.

 

I've seen LS1s with a setup like this, and yes these setups DO make power.

 

Strange to place turbo so far away from engine.

Turbo lag must be hell in that setup.

 

Everyone just read http://www.ststurbo.com/ for questions.

Benefits:

Easy Install
Great Sound (turbo acts as muffler)
Lower underhood temperatures
More room underhood
Cooler oil to the turbo
500F lower turbo temperatures
Built-in intercooling
Turbo closer to tail pipe (providing better pressure differential)
Better weight transfer
Less noise in compartment
Quieter wastegates when vented
Better engine cooling

And here are several common questions:

With the turbo so far back, don't you get a lot of turbo lag?
No, our turbochargers are sized to operate at this remote location. Just like any turbocharger, once the turbo is up to temperature and in the rpm range for which it was designed to operate. The boost comes on hard and fast. All of our systems will produce full boost below 3000 rpm.
If you were to take a conventional turbo and place it at the rear, you would have lots of lag and consequently, our turbo wouldn't work properly if mounted up front.


Doesn't water get into your engine with the filter mounted down low?
No, even under very wet conditions the filter sheds most all water. Every kit includes a K&N PreCharger which is a "sock" that protects the filter under very dusty or wet conditions. The only thing you don't want to do is completely submerge the filter. This would draw water through the filter and into the intake tubing. For most vehicles that would mean you would have water coming in your doors before you'd have a problem with the turbo's air filter.


With so long of intake and exhaust tubes, doesn't it take a while for the boost to build up?
No, our intake tubing volume is about the same as most conventional turbo setups that are running a front mounted intercooler, and less than many of them that run large intercoolers. We aren't talking about a small compressor filling up a large air tank, we are talking about a huge compressor filling up a very small volume which only takes a fraction of a second. Our systems compress the intake tubing in about .05 seconds. So much for turbo lag...

 

I still think its stupidest and non- usable places to mount a turbo.

Diffrent though.

 

Like he said, it's mainly for V8's - if you've ever looked at a newer firebird's engine bay, you can barely stick your hand anywhere, let alone a big turbo, much less two. The fact that the V8's can push so much energy into the exhaust is what makes them effective.

All the 'benifits' I see seem to be more marketing than sts-only improvements. A turbo in any location will act like a muffler, recirculated bov will be even quieter (why'd you get a loud bov if you don't want one?), and cooler oil isn't needed considering virtually all turbos can be bought watercooled. Built in intercooling works both ways though, heat lost from charge pipes is the same as exhaust. Lost exhaust heat is lost energy that could've gone into your turbo.

Personally I can't wait for roof-mount turbos

 

thats stupid