how much for this swap?



I have a 98 civic ex d16y8 (25k miles) engine that will be replacing my worn out d16y7 in my 1998 civic dx.
How much should someone charge me to have this done?
Also need to know: A new (used) tranny will need to be installed as well. I will provide a new clutch disc and pressure plate too. I bought a new ecu (yes, the correct one) and wiring harness. I'm having second thoughts about using my new wiring harness because cant I just run a couple wires to make vtec work?
So, to summerize.
install new engine
install new trans (k4f) and clutch
install new ecu
optional wiring harness.
Modified by ELMO! at 6:10 AM 5/23/2005
Modified by ELMO! at 6:12 AM 5/23/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HATCHingMN »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll do for $350</TD></TR></TABLE>
okay, now come to Louisville, KY..
deal.
okay, now come to Louisville, KY..
deal.
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okay, now come to Louisville, KY..
deal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
$350 Plus $230 airfare and hotel
but seriously can you do it yourself?? pretty easy swap.
Your wireharness problem is much easier than you though. It dont make anymore difficult or easier to decide which wireharness to run. They are pretty much the same work involve. I would use a seperate wire to the ecu for vtec wiring and use original wireharness.
okay, now come to Louisville, KY..
deal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
$350 Plus $230 airfare and hotel
but seriously can you do it yourself?? pretty easy swap.
Your wireharness problem is much easier than you though. It dont make anymore difficult or easier to decide which wireharness to run. They are pretty much the same work involve. I would use a seperate wire to the ecu for vtec wiring and use original wireharness.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbogixxer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You going to shop install it or a weekend warrior?
I will do it for $349
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I'd rather have a individual do it and me help. No, I cant do it on my own because I lack the tools, garage, and I've never done any swap ever. I'm a puppet for Gods sake!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HATCHingMN »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$350 Plus $230 airfare and hotel
but seriously can you do it yourself?? pretty easy swap.
Your wireharness problem is much easier than you though. It dont make anymore difficult or easier to decide which wireharness to run. They are pretty much the same work involve. I would use a seperate wire to the ecu for vtec wiring and use original wireharness.</TD></TR></TABLE>
$580
I agree about the wiring harness. I might sell the one I bought. Should bring $120 on ebay.
Actually, if your serious....I work at a hotel so that would be free. Something to think about!! Plus I'd do food, beers, whatever.
I will do it for $349
</TD></TR></TABLE>I'd rather have a individual do it and me help. No, I cant do it on my own because I lack the tools, garage, and I've never done any swap ever. I'm a puppet for Gods sake!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HATCHingMN »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$350 Plus $230 airfare and hotel
but seriously can you do it yourself?? pretty easy swap.
Your wireharness problem is much easier than you though. It dont make anymore difficult or easier to decide which wireharness to run. They are pretty much the same work involve. I would use a seperate wire to the ecu for vtec wiring and use original wireharness.</TD></TR></TABLE>
$580
I agree about the wiring harness. I might sell the one I bought. Should bring $120 on ebay.
Actually, if your serious....I work at a hotel so that would be free. Something to think about!! Plus I'd do food, beers, whatever.
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Actually, if your serious....I work at a hotel so that would be free. Something to think about!! Plus I'd do food, beers, whatever.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No food or beer but if you can hook me up with some **wink**wink** hotty in the neighborhood hehe J/K
You cannot work on car at home if you dont have the engine hoist....
you would better off with someone in your area that can help you out. I dont mind giving you a hand if you're here in MN though.
Actually, if your serious....I work at a hotel so that would be free. Something to think about!! Plus I'd do food, beers, whatever.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No food or beer but if you can hook me up with some **wink**wink** hotty in the neighborhood hehe J/K
You cannot work on car at home if you dont have the engine hoist....
you would better off with someone in your area that can help you out. I dont mind giving you a hand if you're here in MN though.
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I'd rather have a individual do it and me help. No, I cant do it on my own because I lack the tools, garage, and I've never done any swap ever. I'm a puppet for Gods sake!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you have a local board, make a post that you need help and willing ot pay them in return, I am sure something will you help.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HATCHingMN »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your wireharness problem is much easier than you though. It dont make anymore difficult or easier to decide which wireharness to run. They are pretty much the same work involve. I would use a seperate wire to the ecu for vtec wiring and use original wireharness.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It matters what wiring harness he has, if it is a 96-98 EX harness, it will make the swap easier.
I'd rather have a individual do it and me help. No, I cant do it on my own because I lack the tools, garage, and I've never done any swap ever. I'm a puppet for Gods sake!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you have a local board, make a post that you need help and willing ot pay them in return, I am sure something will you help.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HATCHingMN »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your wireharness problem is much easier than you though. It dont make anymore difficult or easier to decide which wireharness to run. They are pretty much the same work involve. I would use a seperate wire to the ecu for vtec wiring and use original wireharness.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It matters what wiring harness he has, if it is a 96-98 EX harness, it will make the swap easier.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ELMO! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
damn, I need someone in my area to help.
:: frustrated::
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Middle of june is open for me
I think nsxmatt lives near you, I do not know for sure or if he is willing to help you. I just remember him being from KY.
damn, I need someone in my area to help.
:: frustrated::
</TD></TR></TABLE>Middle of june is open for me
I think nsxmatt lives near you, I do not know for sure or if he is willing to help you. I just remember him being from KY.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbogixxer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Middle of june is open for me
I think nsxmatt lives near you, I do not know for sure or if he is willing to help you. I just remember him being from KY. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll be in FL in June about the 26th in Ft Myers. I was planning on renting a car and abusing the holy hell out of it but I could take the civic instead.
I think nsxmatt lives near you, I do not know for sure or if he is willing to help you. I just remember him being from KY. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll be in FL in June about the 26th in Ft Myers. I was planning on renting a car and abusing the holy hell out of it but I could take the civic instead.
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I'll be in FL in June about the 26th in Ft Myers. I was planning on renting a car and abusing the holy hell out of it but I could take the civic instead.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ft myers is like 2.5 hours from me. I am just north of Ft. Lauderdale. I am going to the Ft Myers area in june to do two swaps, I do not know excatly when.
I'll be in FL in June about the 26th in Ft Myers. I was planning on renting a car and abusing the holy hell out of it but I could take the civic instead.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ft myers is like 2.5 hours from me. I am just north of Ft. Lauderdale. I am going to the Ft Myers area in june to do two swaps, I do not know excatly when.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ELMO! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> How long should it take?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Anywhere from 4-8 hours.
Anywhere from 4-8 hours.
If you have all the tools and a hoist and everything i would do it for airfare, a room to stay and food.
But for local people normally its 300 and 100 for extra parts (oils, coolant, hoses, etc, unless they bring me that stuff)
But for local people normally its 300 and 100 for extra parts (oils, coolant, hoses, etc, unless they bring me that stuff)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you have all the tools and a hoist and everything i would do it for airfare, a room to stay and food.
But for local people normally its 300 and 100 for extra parts (oils, coolant, hoses, etc, unless they bring me that stuff)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wish I did have that stuff, but I dont. Thanks anyway.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by petersayarath »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i live in ohio... 44311..I can do it.. just got to get the motor and car up here..
we can talk about pricing </TD></TR></TABLE>
This might work. Pm'ed.
anybody else?
But for local people normally its 300 and 100 for extra parts (oils, coolant, hoses, etc, unless they bring me that stuff)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wish I did have that stuff, but I dont. Thanks anyway.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by petersayarath »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i live in ohio... 44311..I can do it.. just got to get the motor and car up here..
we can talk about pricing </TD></TR></TABLE>
This might work. Pm'ed.
anybody else?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Senses Fail y0! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** I'm going up to kentucky, lousville also this summer, and would be willing to do the swap for you, but I wouldn't have any tools at all either</TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn. What can I do about getting some tools?? Hmm.
Damn. What can I do about getting some tools?? Hmm.
**** i will just tell you how to ******* do it lol... its not that damn hard
This is what u need...
10mm socket
12mm socket
14mm socket
17mm socket
19mm socket
32mm socket
10mm wrench
12mm wrench
14mm wrench
17mm wrench
12mm 12 point socket for flywheel bolts
17mm 12 point socket for flywheel bolts
3/8 Wratchet
Hammer
Needle Nose Pliers
Screw drivers phillips and flat head
Bucket or Pan
Gloves
Engine Lift
Jack Stands
24 pack of soda
I think those were all the tools i used... Air tools are a big ******* help...
So to sum a swap up really quick and easy....
1. Put your **** up on jack stands...
1 1/2. Drain ur coolant, and oil
2. take wheels off
3. Take battery out of car
4. unplug engine harness from engine bay harness..
5. pull the shift linkage out
6. pull all the other **** off ur block (ac, p/s, hoses)
7. pull axles out
8. get lift over car
9. put chain around engine and hook it up to lift...
9 1/2. as chain lifts engine up, remove the bolts to the mounts
10. lift engine out of car
11. set engine down
i think thats it... im too tired to remember anything... hahah then
12. swap tranny, clutch and drop the other motor in...
Modified by Otherguy at 11:19 PM 5/22/2005
This is what u need...
10mm socket
12mm socket
14mm socket
17mm socket
19mm socket
32mm socket
10mm wrench
12mm wrench
14mm wrench
17mm wrench
12mm 12 point socket for flywheel bolts
17mm 12 point socket for flywheel bolts
3/8 Wratchet
Hammer
Needle Nose Pliers
Screw drivers phillips and flat head
Bucket or Pan
Gloves
Engine Lift
Jack Stands
24 pack of soda
I think those were all the tools i used... Air tools are a big ******* help...
So to sum a swap up really quick and easy....
1. Put your **** up on jack stands...
1 1/2. Drain ur coolant, and oil
2. take wheels off
3. Take battery out of car
4. unplug engine harness from engine bay harness..
5. pull the shift linkage out
6. pull all the other **** off ur block (ac, p/s, hoses)
7. pull axles out
8. get lift over car
9. put chain around engine and hook it up to lift...
9 1/2. as chain lifts engine up, remove the bolts to the mounts
10. lift engine out of car
11. set engine down
i think thats it... im too tired to remember anything... hahah then
12. swap tranny, clutch and drop the other motor in...
Modified by Otherguy at 11:19 PM 5/22/2005
thats a 300$ job....anymore is too much. SHouldn't take anyone who knows what they're doing, more than 4-6 hours to do so....so at the longestm thats 50 bucks an hour
alright.
Now I'm just trying to find somebody who I can help do it. As I said before, I'm lacking the tools, garage, hoist, and a little ***** (this is my one and only car) to do this seeing as I have no swap experience.
for the imput so far and hopefully I can find somebody willing to help out.
Now I'm just trying to find somebody who I can help do it. As I said before, I'm lacking the tools, garage, hoist, and a little ***** (this is my one and only car) to do this seeing as I have no swap experience.
for the imput so far and hopefully I can find somebody willing to help out.


