iighte @ first i wanted to do ls/vtec on my b18 block for my DA but for some reason i just want to save and get a b162 tell me your opinon of why this motor is a good choice

 

b16 's are the best rod to stroke ratio and they can make pretty
decent #s

 

There's nothing special about a B16 motor, a marginally better rod/stroke ratio doesn't mean dick when the B18B's is still better, and you will make a lot more power and torque with the B18B. Swapping in a B16 is downright silly, you'll spend more on the swap than you would an LS/VTEC setup even with a new transmission, and the LS/VTEC will have the B16 bested by 20 horsepower.

 

also in a Da i would for sure say a b18 at least for tq reasons

 

for ur da i would just go lsvtec or atleast stay with a 1.8 do to weight. but a b16 isnt so bad. if i were u i would get the b16 and fully build the head. and if ur not satisfied with the power u can always get an ls block and put it on. but its up to u with how much money to spend.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Napoleon Dynamite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's nothing special about a B16 motor, a marginally better rod/stroke ratio doesn't mean dick when the B18B's is still better, and you will make a lot more power and torque with the B18B.</TD></TR></TABLE>

B16A&gt;non-VTEC B18B

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16A&gt;non-VTEC B18B</TD></TR></TABLE>

B16A &lt; LS\VTEC

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Napoleon Dynamite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's nothing special about a B16 motor, a marginally better rod/stroke ratio doesn't mean dick when the B18B's is still better, and you will make a lot more power and torque with the B18B. Swapping in a B16 is downright silly, you'll spend more on the swap than you would an LS/VTEC setup even with a new transmission, and the LS/VTEC will have the B16 bested by 20 horsepower.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hold on there skippy. B18B is "better" than B16? B16A &gt; B18B on the strip. LS/VTEC owns both, which is why I'm doing one

 

put a LS crank and rods with a tech43 piston in that b16 and that will be good too..

 

oh god not another b16 vs b18a/b thread

 

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I know!


B16 is junk!!!! Stick to your plans for LS/Vtec ad you will be happier in the end. Also you will spend less money converting it to vtec than buying a B16.

 

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I know!


B16 is junk!!!! Stick to your plans for LS/Vtec ad you will be happier in the end. Also you will spend less money converting it to vtec than buying a B16.</TD></TR></TABLE>

whoa watch the comments... my b16 will out power ur b18 all motor any day...

 

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whoa watch the comments... my b16 will out power ur b18 all motor any day...</TD></TR></TABLE> yup...watch out..i've seen some well built motors in the past..
but i think in the long run..
what you will spend "CONVERTING" a non vtec engine into one...
u can get one thats already VTEC and u will be happier in the long run...
not to mention reliability...

 

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whoa watch the comments... my b16 will out power ur b18 all motor any day...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really! Setup and Dynos please adn then we can compare power bands! Also make a list of all the money you wasted on that motor to make the power you did! You could have had a GSR or ITR motor by now.

Me on the other hand I have only $2500 into my build and that includes the purchase of the motor and tranny.


The reason I think the B16 is junk is b/c I have owned to of them in my hatch. And of what I spent in them it still wasnt that fast until I put the bottle on it!

Both B16's ended the same way: spun rod bearings! So much for your ideal Rod/Stroke Ratio. Also my first LS motor ended to shooting a rod b/c of weak stock rod bolts!

 

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Really! Setup and Dynos please adn then we can compare power bands! Also make a list of all the money you wasted on that motor to make the power you did! You could have had a GSR or ITR motor by now.

Me on the other hand I have only $2500 into my build and that includes the purchase of the motor and tranny.


The reason I think the B16 is junk is b/c I have owned to of them in my hatch. And of what I spent in them it still wasnt that fast until I put the bottle on it!

Both B16's ended the same way: spun rod bearings! So much for your ideal Rod/Stroke Ratio. Also my first LS motor ended to shooting a rod b/c of weak stock rod bolts!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mine hit a 14.1@99, and it's internally stock and 15 years old. I also rev it to 8500 all day long at the track with 0 problems.

 

B16's doubters need to read this thread, then get back to me on your B18 hype........******s <U>NEVER</U> underestimate a B16's potential........

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1201433

*EDIT* BTW, he's around the 215 WHP mark as of now

 

Any motor has enough potential if you have the proper knowledge and enough money to dump into it!

What I am saying is this guy can spend less money and make more power going the LS/Vtec route!


Also you guys can talk to DonF, one of his customers allmotor LS's put down 242bhp, and another 270bhp(thats flywheel rated, but impressive non the less)

 

[QUOTE=clean rice]B16's doubters need to read this thread, then get back to me on your B18 hype........******s <U>NEVER</U> underestimate a B16's potential........

, I also agree with you too hybrid_vtec because if I had known what I know now 4years ago I would have got a b20vtec from these guyshttp://www.theoldone.com/articles/badtothebone/ no matter how much money it cost.

 

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Not alot of 1.6 motors are fast, but honda made one that can compete other higher displacement motors...

 

 

I've never been unsatisfied with B16's. They're easy to work with, make decent power, and provide the sleeper element for the ignorant people of the world. If your car doesn't go fast enough, remove some weight. My last B16 setup (stock longblock) had no problem whoring Evo MR's in any driving situation outside of 1/8 mile drag racing.

 

Those who know B16's can't explain. Those who don't can't understand.

 

why go down to a 1.6 when your at 1.8 already..............i say go 2.0

 

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in the process...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16's doubters need to read this thread, then get back to me on your B18 hype........******s <U>NEVER</U> underestimate a B16's potential........

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1201433

*EDIT* BTW, he's around the 215 WHP mark as of now </TD></TR></TABLE>

See Edo's post? His motor made 303 on the same dynapack and 265-270 on a dynojet. That 215 is more like 190 dynojet. Pair a 190 dynojet WHP B16 up against a 190 WHP B18 motor and watch the 1.6 get eaten alive because the 1.8 has a better powerband with more area under the curve.