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Old May 19, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Normal driving is fine but when I am racing and pushing past 7000 rpm, The car just doesnt want to shift into second. Tonight when I raced, the first race was good, but after that I couldnt get it to go in second. Maybe air bubbles are expanding when the car is hot and ******* **** up?
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Old May 19, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Check that the 2 large clips that secure the linkage in place up by the transmission are securely in place.

Do you have any play in gear?
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Old May 19, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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yeah i have the same problem cant shift into 3rd though past 6k wont hold jsut grinds but nething lower than 5500 will hold synchros are shot
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:10 AM
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sounds like synchros to me.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 06:13 AM
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Default Re: Can't shift into second at high RPM's (Pullig)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pullig &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i have the same problem cant shift into 3rd though past 6k wont hold jsut grinds but nething lower than 5500 will hold synchros are shot </TD></TR></TABLE>

Pullig and JDM H22, its you synchros. They are a pita to replace however it can be done. I have heard arguments about just replacing the hole tranny for the cost but I am not sure. I will be replacing all of mine when I go to do a final drive swap.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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First and third feel solid ( I have a short throw shifter), but second feels spongy. Even when it is not going into second , while I pull, the shifter feels like rubber. Is that what you meant by "any play"?
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Old May 23, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Do you think the tranny fluid needs to be changed?
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Old May 23, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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I think its recommended every 15,000 miles, so yes that would be a good idea, but thats not going to repair your synchronicers.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Its so funny that anytime anyone here hears someone talk about it not going into gear, they automatically think syncros.

The fact that you mentioned the word "spongy" points almost 90% of the blame on the shift cables, although it is usually the "up" gears that go spongy. I'd take a close look at your cables.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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1) Check shift cables
2) Check/Change transmission fluid
3) Check Master cyclinder
4) Check Slave cyclinder
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Old May 23, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelude1897 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1) Check shift cables
2) Check/Change transmission fluid
3) Check Master cyclinder
4) Check Slave cyclinder</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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Might wanna check your shifter bushing as well
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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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If it was my car, I would first change the tranny oil.

Just curious, why do people think it is the shift cables if he has a problem only when he revs over 7K???
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Old May 24, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4bidden &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its so funny that anytime anyone here hears someone talk about it not going into gear, they automatically think syncros.

The fact that you mentioned the word "spongy" points almost 90% of the blame on the shift cables, although it is usually the "up" gears that go spongy. I'd take a close look at your cables.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's because it is more likely to be your synchros than the cables.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious, why do people think it is the shift cables if he has a problem only when he revs over 7K???</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats why I said it was the synchros
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Old May 24, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxvtec7500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thats why I said it was the synchros </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, that's why I was wondering. I could understand if it locked him out of gear at random RPM, not above a certain RPM. Synchros is what I would think if the tranny fluid didn't fix it.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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my car does the samething once in awhile and only from 1st to 2nd. i noticed by adjusting the clutch pedal it helped alleviate the problem a little, but did not fix it. i just changed my fluid and didn't fix it so i don't think that's your problem.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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One more thing did come to mind (since I am looking to fix all the easy stuff Thursday) I just fix a cracked hard-line from my slave to my tranny. I bled the clutch and everything was good. However I did notice a very small leak from where I screwed the line to the tranny. I made it tighter and never saw a leak again, but the pedal was fine. Maybe a little air got in there
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Old May 27, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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i have the same problem with my car,when im racing from 1st gear at 8000rpms,i cant slam it into 2nd gear,after about 3trys when rpms go down,same thing w/4th gear,i notice my car kinda vibrates,i can feel it on the floorboard,like somethings messed up,it could be clutch,cables,tranny,slave cyl,i just dont know,any info would help
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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Old May 28, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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I have the same problems. I can't powershift(stay on gas hit clutch and shift) into second
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Old May 28, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bvprelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the same problems. I can't powershift(stay on gas hit clutch and shift) into second</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm having the same problem...
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Old May 28, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Have you all noticed a common theme here?? You guys are abusing the car!!! What the hell do you expect? JESUS!! It's posts like these that make me wish I don't offer help to these types of people.
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Old May 29, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Or maybe it is because some of us are running transmissions over 12 years old!
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Old May 29, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you all noticed a common theme here?? You guys are abusing the car!!! What the hell do you expect? JESUS!! It's posts like these that make me wish I don't offer help to these types of people. </TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe because we mod our cars to go faster, and of course the end result is us trying to drive the car faster to take advantage of the work we've done... what the hell do YOU expect!?!?
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