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Old May 19, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Old May 19, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Guess you didn't get the memo. Steel rusts.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Cars rust. Oil is your friend.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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You know I have had quite a few coilovers and all of them rusted. It is not severe or anything. Just a lil surface rust on the actual sleeves, but nothing a towel with some WD40 won't wipe off. Even if they are teflon coated they will get lil dots of rust, but like I said it usually comes right off. The actual springs will rust when the coating finally wears away, but what can you do. The damn things are going up and down a thousand times a day. I usually wrap the top 3-4 coils with electrical tape and that helps..also prevents noise. But 1 thing I did notice is that all the bolts on top of the coilovers rust so I changed them out for some stainless steel hardware.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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sorry for the crappy pic, but i tried the wd-40 and towel and it didnt wipe right off. this is after i just wipped them with wd-40. btw the coilovers have less then 3,000 miles.

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Old May 19, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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**** what I said, that **** is BAD! Mine have always been like little sprinkles, that's more like a bad rash. I would have thought they would be electoplated and teflon coated. Even my friends POS sleeve coilovers and ebay full coilovers never did that. You contact Omni?
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Old May 19, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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just spray wd-40 and wipe little. so some of them are stick to them and do some protection work.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Yeah i also had cheap weapon r coilovers on before these and the rust was not nearly as bad as this, they only had little sprinkles of rust like you said. I have spoke with steve via email and he said that they have a 2 year warranty but the rust is not covered unless it gets to the point where it causes performance problems or they are leaking.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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i thought omnis were aluminum...? guess not
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Old May 19, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought omnis were aluminum...? guess not</TD></TR></TABLE>

alumiums rust too..even stainless steel too..just better than mild steel or other steels
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Old May 19, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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aluminum doesnt corrode like brown rust.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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I checked the site to see what they are made of and found this:

"We used CNC Wound SAE 9254 Racing Springs which were found to be the longest lasting spring on the market that showed no tendencies to sag"

I guess they will be replacing us in IRL, Nascar, Off-road, F1, etc

Most coilovers are going to show signs of rust. Some will just be worse than others.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I checked the site to see what they are made of and found this:

"We used CNC Wound SAE 9254 Racing Springs which were found to be the longest lasting spring on the market that showed no tendencies to sag"

I guess they will be replacing us in IRL, Nascar, Off-road, F1, etc

Most coilovers are going to show signs of rust. Some will just be worse than others.
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It looks likeOmnipower is referring to the spring/coil material on the info you pulled from their site. From the looks of the pics he posted, the threaded section of the height adjuster is rusting. Looks like mild steel. yeech!

I'm in a search for a coiloover setup. I would have to see and touch/feel before I plunk my cash down. Got GC's in my Miata right now and might just return to them. I'd wanna pay for a set by credit card, inspect it and have the option to return it but most sites charge a return fee
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Old May 19, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I checked the site to see what they are made of and found this:

"We used CNC Wound SAE 9254 Racing Springs which were found to be the longest lasting spring on the market that showed no tendencies to sag"

I guess they will be replacing us in IRL, Nascar, Off-road, F1, etc

Most coilovers are going to show signs of rust. Some will just be worse than others.
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Seriously man, can you stop replying bashing other's products? Especially with something like the above? Springs are completely off-topic to this post. His dampers are rusting, not the springs so it doesn't matter what they are made of. As for someone taking over in IRL, Nascar, Off-road, F1, etc. I don't really care. I just know that I'm so tired of your constant bashing of others products (and often it seems you aren't even familiar with them) and misleading consumers (the skunk2 thread where you imply that they'll sag within a week) that my spring purchases will be made through hypercoils or swift from now on. seriously, please just stop. You work for Eibach, Eibach makes good quality springs, they're pretty much the world leader in it but guess what... NOT EVERYONE WILL BUY THEM AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE GOOD QUALITY!!!!!!!


To the originator of the thread....
Try taking some steel wool to the rust and see if you can get rid of it. Afterwards, keep them lubed up. It doesn't really help the fact that there's obviously an issue but at least it will hopefully keep it from spreading on you.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

alumiums rust too..even stainless steel too..just better than mild steel or other steels</TD></TR></TABLE>

You boob, aluminum doesn't rust.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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oh boo hoo. I just thought it was funny quote. I`ve seen almost everything on the market and have dyno`d them, so I do know what I am talking about. Also, I never said the said the skunks would sag in a week, I was simply repeating what the installer told the consumer, which was funny.

...and I didn`t bash Steve`s product in this post. I said most coilovers are prone to rusting. If you live on the east coast it should almost be expected. When Steve drops his parts off to be tested, I will not pass judgement on them. The results will speak for themselves, wether good or bad.

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Old May 21, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JohnnyWash1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You boob, aluminum doesn't rust.</TD></TR></TABLE>


ummm.....yea it does....it doesnt corrode the same color as steels...itls more of a milky color....and anything that is exposed to weather will get some type of corosion...but from the pics it looks like surface rust.....try sprayig like wd-40 or pb pblaster and work the perches up and down to clean the treads out
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Old May 21, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh boo hoo. I just thought it was funny quote. I`ve seen almost everything on the market and have dyno`d them, so I do know what I am talking about. Also, I never said the said the skunks would sag in a week, I was simply repeating what the installer told the consumer, which was funny.

...and I didn`t bash Steve`s product in this post. I said most coilovers are prone to rusting. If you live on the east coast it should almost be expected. When Steve drops his parts off to be tested, I will not pass judgement on them. The results will speak for themselves, wether good or bad.

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thje last 3 sets of eibachs i have tested in my spring dyno, were HORRIBLY OFF 25-50 lbs/inch.. oh well i guess IRL/nascar blah blah get more attention than the CONSUMER. its OK, though, becasue all the hypercoils i buy are dead on
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Old May 21, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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what are you using to rate them?
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Old May 21, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


ummm.....yea it does....it doesnt corrode the same color as steels...itls more of a milky color....and anything that is exposed to weather will get some type of corosion...but from the pics it looks like surface rust.....try sprayig like wd-40 or pb pblaster and work the perches up and down to clean the treads out</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have no idea what you are talking about. Take a chemistry class, will ya? Aluminum is an oddball metal because of the PROTECTIVE coating that forms when pure aluminum oxidizes (you know, this is the part you were alluding to when you said "exposed to weather"). It does NOT corrode the same way Iron does (we call that rust).


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Old May 22, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsvtec101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just wanted to let people out there know that omnipowerusa coilovers rust. </TD></TR></TABLE>

A lot of Tein coilovers also rust...and badly.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JohnnyWash1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You have no idea what you are talking about. Take a chemistry class, will ya? Aluminum is an oddball metal because of the PROTECTIVE coating that forms when pure aluminum oxidizes (you know, this is the part you were alluding to when you said "exposed to weather"). It does NOT corrode the same way Iron does (we call that rust).


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ok...ive been working around metals most of my live and my dad has been involved with sandblasting and painting bridges and know all about the different types of rust. i didnt think alluminium rusted until my dad informed me that that it did and i beleive he said that the rust doesnt deterorate the metal as fast as it would steel...hell i was shocked when i found that out....i thought allumiunium was impervious to corrosion
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Old May 22, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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The oxidation of aluminum results in aluminum oxide, which differs from something like iron oxide, in that it actually forms a protective layer over the surface. iirc it prevents further rusting, and is very resistant. Its a different kind of deterioration.
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http://www.popsci.com/popsci/h....html
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Old May 22, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

A lot of Tein coilovers also rust...and badly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My Buddy Clubs were a little rusted when I just pulled them off, though not horribly. Wire brush + WD40 cleaned them up fine, then coated them with anti-sieze to (hopefully) prevent further corrosion. Those are steel-bodied.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Noob4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The oxidation of aluminum results in aluminum oxide, which differs from something like iron oxide, in that it actually forms a protective layer over the surface. iirc it prevents further rusting, and is very resistant. Its a different kind of deterioration.
edit: a quick google search yields this:
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/h....html
courtesy of popular science.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you, I already said that. In fact, Iron Oxide (rust) is so named because it is a unique characteristic to oxidize and flake off, not to form a protective coating (alot of metals do).


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