I just bought an integra with a Type R motor and i wanted to know what you guys think is better for the type R a turbo setup or a supercharger. I want the pros and cons but just for this specific motor. i have heard that the type R motor is great for superchargers but i want to know why and what kinda power i could make with what setup on stock internals. I dont want this to become an argument about what is better turbo or supercharger i just want to know what kinda power i can get from each on stock internals. Thanks in advance.

 

BTW if you have opinions on what turbo or what supercharger setup makes the most power let me know, i really want to know all i can thanks

 

to safely boost, I would highly recommend not running stock internals

 

Well forced induction on Honda's is a pretty new concept so you might not find much information.

However if I had to take a guess I'd say....wait it is coming to me......oh yeah maybe the FORCED INDUCTION FORUM .

You could also search. I have a strange feeling the words "turbo" and "supercharger" might come up with 1 or 2 results.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ActiveAero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well forced induction on Honda's is a pretty new concept so you might not find much information.

However if I had to take a guess I'd say....wait it is coming to me......oh yeah maybe the FORCED INDUCTION FORUM .

You could also search. I have a strange feeling the words "turbo" and "supercharger" might come up with 1 or 2 results. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Forced wha??!!? You's talking crazy, mang!


BTW, turbo will always make more power.

 

yea i guess i should of looked there you are right but you dont have to be dicks about it if you know something about what i posted just tell me dont be gay about it though.

 

do you just want to make the most power you can or actually have something useable and worthwhile? what are your goals with the car? etc

 

With both you will be limited to about 5-6 psi of boost.

With tuning and good fuel that = 250-260 whp

Prepare to pay $$$ - it's not a bolt on and go thing

 

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Come on, you've been around longer to know better than that.

From the FI forum faq... light turbo setup vs. light SC.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=688120

Turbo's are where the power is at. You can make 300 WHP on the street if you tune it right, on the stock motor. Don't bother with FI if you're doing HPDE's or running from cops for long distances.

-Chris

 

Check the FAQ way more information there than this one post.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't bother with FI if you're doing HPDE's.

-Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>

Learning from our own mistakes are we?

 

Yeah, and...

Your search for turbo jrsc returned 97 results

 

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Haha, damnit.

My car will be more reliable soon. Turbo, N/A, or M3. One of those.

(edit, supercharged M3, just for good measure)

-Chris

 

Sounds like you have quite a bit to learn and dont really know what you are getting yourself into. It might be wise to research both options, see what is needed for both to work properly, and figure out what your goal is for the car.

 

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However if I had to take a guess I'd say....wait it is coming to me......oh yeah maybe the FORCED INDUCTION FORUM .

You could also search. I have a strange feeling the words "turbo" and "supercharger" might come up with 1 or 2 results. </TD></TR></TABLE>

and you call me a butthole....hmmmm

 

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Haha, damnit.

My car will be more reliable soon. Turbo, N/A, or M3. One of those.

(edit, supercharged M3, just for good measure)

-Chris
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I vote for just keeping all the oil inside and quit slicking up the course for the rest of us

 

Sell your ITR motor and get a GS-R swap or even B16 and do a turbo or SC setup. Then you can run more boost and if you blow it up it isnt as bad as blowing an ITR motor. I bet you could sell the ITR motor and get an LS and turbo or SC kit w/ the total sale if you take your time, search carefully, and find great deals.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rino924 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sell your ITR motor and get a GS-R swap or even B16 and do a turbo or SC setup. Then you can run more boost and if you blow it up it isnt as bad as blowing an ITR motor. I bet you could sell the ITR motor and get an LS and turbo or SC kit w/ the total sale if you take your time, search carefully, and find great deals.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea lots of ppl say LS motor is good for forced induction...not as high a compression ratio etc. btw reeseeaarrcchhhh

 

Hell no!! It's a type R motor. Keep it N/A. No piont in force inducing a very highly tuned motor if not perfect. Reliable and fast. You want boost this ain't the motor for you.

Better yet sell me the motor and get a normal B18

 

for you, niether. seems as if ur kind of clueless on FI. high compression + FI= hole in your block.

your either going to need to redo your whole bottom end and lower the compression, or run low amounts of boost and get it tuned by someone that is good and experienced. dont go and blow a 4000 dollar engine because u want just a little bit more hp.

i'd suggest you keep it stock and upgrade ur suspension if its not upgraded at all.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't bother with FI if you're doing HPDE's or running from cops for long distances.

-Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sig material

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Don't bother with FI if you're doing HPDE's or running from cops for long distances.

-Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ummm ... what else is excessive power for?

 

I'm going to have to absolutely agree with what Rino said. Mainly because it is a high compression motor with Honda cast pistons. Either turbo or sc would be reliable if you want to run a small amount of boost, but I'm personally biased to turbos, there's just nothing else like that sling-shot effect you get as your turbo spools.

The bottom line is that your going to be running honda pistons and from my experience, they have a tendency to crack, especially between the ringlands.

2 reasons I would suggest a motor other than Type R.

First, if you're going to run stock Honda internals and you don't forsee yourself ever rebuilding the motor, I would suggest running something lower compression to prolong the period of time between you putting the turbo on and then beating your head against the wall because you cracked all 4 of your pistons racing some guy that wasn't even worth it. Wait....that was me, sorry. But you get it.

Also, Type R motors are rare and expensive to replace, GS-R motors are signicantly cheaper. If you blow it, and you need a replacement, it hurts a lot less.

Second, if you do plan on building it at some point you're going to be replacing everything that makes the Type R bottom end Type R (pistons and rods), At that point you're paying for an extra $1500 for the 5 at the end of B18C5. If you're worried about that, an angle grinder for that 1, a red valve cover and a skunk2 manifold visually converts any GS-R motor into JDM ITR in about 3 hours. (B18C)

The blocks are the same, so why not just pocket the difference?

Just my $0.02

 

thanks for the info and I know that the Type R motor has high compression and is not the most ideal motor for turbo but im only askin cause ive seen some people on here that have boosted B18C5's on stock internals running fine. I know that an NA B18C5 is bad *** but also takes more money to get the power a turbo would give you. I also know it would be better to build it but i dont have that kinda cash and in that case i might as well go N/A. Im not sure what i want to do yet im just seeing my options. I also know i need good tuning, i know a lot of these essential things i just wanted some opinions.

 

They'll run fine just like you said, if you tune them right and you have a moderate level of self control when it comes to turning that boost controller ****.

I lack that self control, so instead of not turning the ****, I end up spending countless dollars building the engine so I can turn the ****.