Just like it says haha.

It's at 375whp @ 14psi and 8000rpm. After a leakdown test I've come to the conclusion that I am rebuilding and going with:
Golden Eagle Cam Seals
AEM Fuel Rail
Eldelbrock -8AN Fuel Filter
RC Engineering 1000cc Injectors
HKS SSQV Blow Off Valve (can this handle 22-28psi??)
ERL or Golden Eagle Sleeves, will decide on Tuesday
GSR Oil Pump
ERL 5 Main Girdle Kit
ARP Head Bolts
Endyn Catch Can
Cometic Head Gasket
etc. etc. etc.

So my question is: has anyone ever seen 500whp on a drag kit before haha? Not too worried if it breaks (just gives me reason to buy the Full-Race kit haha). This will be happening ASAP (hopefully later this week).

 

If you mean using the stock .54 trim turbo drag supplies, then it's doubtful. The drag t04e is rated a bit over 450whp. I made a little over 420whp with 23 psi, and I am still using the drag manifold/intercooler/piping/dp/bb turbo. The turbo has more in it, but I have since swapped the downpipe with a 3" so it's technically not a complete drag kit anymore. If you were to swap to a larger turbo and nothing else, 500+ is very realistic

 

only hing ive seen from a drag kit is boost creep

 

I had crazy boost creep, when I installed my Thermal 3inch

 

my drag mani would creep to 12 psi with a 6 psi spring, ****** things are garbage

 

Its not a bug, its a feature!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PureTeg420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you mean using the stock .54 trim turbo drag supplies, then it's doubtful. The drag t04e is rated a bit over 450whp. I made a little over 420whp with 23 psi, and I am still using the drag manifold/intercooler/piping/dp/bb turbo. The turbo has more in it, but I have since swapped the downpipe with a 3" so it's technically not a complete drag kit anymore. If you were to swap to a larger turbo and nothing else, 500+ is very realistic</TD></TR></TABLE>

DAMN you ruined my thoughts haha . I have about 6" of 2.5" coming from the turbo and flaring to 3" all the way back. It'll be with the T3/T4 .57 trim...but I am with you, I have a bad feeling it will fall on its face around 450 and won't let me get to the 500 marker

For everyone else...I am not worried about the boost creep issues. My (luckily) has no creep at all. I know all about those issues and how everyone hates the manifolds blah blah blah... this is only temporary until next summer when I buy the Full-Race manifold. It was only wondering if anyone has ever seen 500whp+ on these kits.

 

What kind of boost would you think I could run with that kit/setup on pump gas? I'll tune it to like 28 on race gas, but I am thinking I should keep it around 20 on pump?? Pump gas is 92-94 octane here in Ohio...I mean if you think it'd be ok to run like 22-25 then I'll do that but I didn't know if that would be real advisable to do or not.

 

most drag kits i used peaked at rigth around 400whp on dynojet, what kinda dyno was u on when u made 420whp ?

i dont see many t3/t04e's 57 trim make any near 450whp at any psi? at that shaft speed the turbo would fall apart

 

It was on a dynojet, no exhaust btw. I know a few local guys who dyno'd their .57 trims at over 450, it's definatly possible. I've seen it posted a few times on honda-tech also, but the archives appear to not be working so I can't use that as an example. It's been done though, usually with a b18c.

If you run 20psi on pump, I'd just make sure to keep your timing conservative. But if your running forged internals (which you would have to be), it should be no problem.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DLB1994 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">most drag kits i used peaked at rigth around 400whp on dynojet, what kinda dyno was u on when u made 420whp ?

i dont see many t3/t04e's 57 trim make any near 450whp at any psi? at that shaft speed the turbo would fall apart</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you have any literature to back-up that statement? Not calling you out or anything, just simply wondering and would like to read it before I go that route. What makes you say that it would fall apart? I looked on Turbonetics at the only turbo that had "57 trim" by it, and the compressor map looks like it is efficient to about 28psi.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PureTeg420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It was on a dynojet, no exhaust btw. I know a few local guys who dyno'd their .57 trims at over 450, it's definatly possible. I've seen it posted a few times on honda-tech also, but the archives appear to not be working so I can't use that as an example. It's been done though, usually with a b18c.

If you run 20psi on pump, I'd just make sure to keep your timing conservative. But if your running forged internals (which you would have to be), it should be no problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeh ill like to see some dyno on this post some links if u find some

Maybe its me then but i have maxxed out over 7 customer cars with drag 3 and drag 4 kits , and most i have ever got was 420whp on a type r with just pistons and rods and the turbo didnt last over a season and it was a car that never seen the street but i can say some dynos do read higher and i can ask if the numbers are SAE

 

Going back to one of the orinal questions....I know that the Tial 50mm is a great choice for higher boost conditions, but can the HKS SSQV handle 20psi daily and 28 for a couple runs?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do you have any literature to back-up that statement? Not calling you out or anything, just simply wondering and would like to read it before I go that route. What makes you say that it would fall apart? I looked on Turbonetics at the only turbo that had "57 trim" by it, and the compressor map looks like it is efficient to about 28psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its not about how much boost ,lets say i have a sohc that takes 32psi to get 400whp and u have a h22 that takes 15psi to get 400whp

That dont mean if the h22 turns the boost up to 32psi like the sohc did on the same turbo that me will make a 150 more whp since its 17 more psi of boost the turbo will just keep making boost but not power ,DO understand i can kind some links on how turbos work

Lets get back on the its not all about the boost to max a turbo out its about the whp that maxes them out the turbo only flows rigth around 47lbs/min and thats comes up at rigth around 470hp not whp and if thats on a dyno that kills 18% thats right at 390whp but we all know u can push turbos more then what they say there ment to push but you are talking a 100more whp then what they will flow

When i say the turbo will fall apart when u push a turbo well pass the point of where it stops making power you start over spining the turbo and its not made to get to them shaft speeds and the turbo will come apart maybe u never seen it happen i have a few times

 

So you are saying that if the turbo keeps making power when you add a little more boost than you haven't maxed it out correct? What if it still makes power to 28psi? Wouldn't it not be over-spinning the turbo then if it keeps making power?

I know how turbos work, I am just needing clarification on the over-spinning idea.

I re-read it and think I understand you....just keep turning the boost up until it stops making power correct?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you are saying that if the turbo keeps making power when you add a little more boost than you haven't maxed it out correct? What if it still makes power to 28psi? Wouldn't it not be over-spinning the turbo then if it keeps making power?

I know how turbos work, I am just needing clarification on the over-spinning idea.

I re-read it and think I understand you....just keep turning the boost up until it stops making power correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if your really making 375whp at 14psi with that turbo u will max the turbo out at before 20psi so it wont make power to 28psi u can try and get back to us

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DLB1994 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">most drag kits i used peaked at rigth around 400whp on dynojet, what kinda dyno was u on when u made 420whp ?

i dont see many t3/t04e's 57 trim make any near 450whp at any psi? at that shaft speed the turbo would fall apart</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think it's possible. I've personally seen 500hp from just a 50trim.

If you have the right combination of great VE, and good tuning I think it could make 500.

Nice IC, JG intake mani, cams, head work...ect.

 

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if your really making 375whp at 14psi with that turbo u will max the turbo out at before 20psi so it wont make power to 28psi u can try and get back to us</TD></TR></TABLE>

Will do man...should be a few weeks from now. I'll be finalizing the parts list tomorrow and deciding on which sleeves I want.