Ok here is my dilemna. I'm 6' 4", 240-250lbs (I'm a little overweight for my size but I'm working on it). I have been lurking on this site since last year trying to soak up as much knowledge as I can before taking the plunge. I have always wanted a motorcycle and I'm looking to buy one in the next few weeks.

I went to my local Honda dealer and I got a chance to sit in riding position on a 600RR......I feel like I'm way to far over the bars. The sales guy and a few other people in the area immediately stated I was way to big for the bike. I know some of you are as tall as me but I have a big frame.

The sales guy suggested I look at the 1000rr or 954rr since the bikes are bigger in size. So I sat on the 1000rr.....looks the same as 600rr just sitting there but sitting on it......it was diffenently more comfortable.

Problem is this. I'm a newbie to this sport and I always said that I would never buy anything bigger the a 600. I have been told by numerous riders that a bigger bike may not be a bad idea as long as I control my speed and respect the power of the bike. Now it seems my size is dictating what size bike I should get.

Before I get the usual (and well deserved) advice about getting a old bike the reason why I'm looking at newer bikes is because the older ones don't appeal to me and I don' want to buy an old bike. I'm not getting the 1000 for the power or speed.....it would be more for the comfort.

So I have 2 questions: 1) if you were me would still get the 600 even though its not comfortable.

and

2) Assuming I do take various older experienced riders advice and get a 1000: Would you get a 1000rr or a Yamaha R1.

I know its a honda site but alot of you guys seem fairly level headed so thats why I'm asking here.Please help me make a good decision.

Thanks in advance.

 

go with the 1000RR im only 5'9 145lb and im on a R1 600RR is too small for you. you can handle the power on the 1000 and you'll like it more. CBR 1000RR is my choose for you

 

If you have to get a litre bike, do not buy it new as newb.

 

I would look at a sport tourer like an Interceptor (VFR800) or a SV650 to see if that's more comfortable before I went out and bought a litrebike. I'd also recommend that you try a CBR600F4i because the ergonomics are meant to be more comfortable.

In other words, exhaust all of your other options first. If you HAVE to get a 1000 the 1000RR is the least likely to bite you but that's not saying much in a class of bikes with 170+ hp. Another option for you might be a RC51. More torque than the litrebikes but much less horsepower and the suspension is more forgiving (read less stiff).

 

get an older 1000 not an rr cuz u drop it ur gonna **** ur pants

 

I like the styling of the newer 1000's vs the older litre bikes.

 

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I'd prefer to have my life then worry about styling. Everyone wants a bike for the image but they don't realize that is often times a deadly decision. Learn how to ride first then you can worry about what the styling of your bike is like. 170whp on a bike that weighs in at around 350 lbs is a real serious power to weight number. Add the fact that you also have to be doing a million things at once just to keep it on two wheels and **** hits the fan pretty quick.

I think you should buy an older used bike that would fit your frame better and learn at least the basics. After a few thousand miles the basics get put into muscle memory and you don't even have to think about them anymore. Two months and 2000 miles later you sell it for a very small loss and you will be a 1000 times safer then you are. Two months of learning how to ride on an ugly bike is well worth the cost of saving your life. You don't have to keep your first bike forever

 

What say makes sense. I don't really care about image....I've always done things for myself. I kinda like the 01-02CBR that came in Orange and black.....thats about the only other bike I liked.

 

I also loved the SMokin Joe's edition CBR from the late 90's

 

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You clearly want a new bike so don't settle get one that's a little older, you will only end up disappointed.

I suggest you get a cheap bike that you don't want to keep as your first bike. Make a deal with someone important to you (wife, gf, family etc) that you aren't going to buy a new bike until you put say 1500 or 2000 miles on your **** first bike and learn how to ride. That will teach you the basics and also give you the motivation to get the riding done and get off the POS first bike. That's what I would do at least. Hope this is helping.

 

it is.

I'm thinking if I get one the CBR's I like then I won't be so quick to want a newer bike and i can get some more training/practice time in. wHO knows maybe I'll stay with the older CBR. I really dont care so much for all the power that the litre bikes have

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apex i ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok here is my dilemna. I'm 6' 4", 240-250lbs (I'm a little overweight for my size but I'm working on it). I have been lurking on this site since last year trying to soak up as much knowledge as I can before taking the plunge. I have always wanted a motorcycle and I'm looking to buy one in the next few weeks.

I went to my local Honda dealer and I got a chance to sit in riding position on a 600RR......I feel like I'm way to far over the bars. The sales guy and a few other people in the area immediately stated I was way to big for the bike. I know some of you are as tall as me but I have a big frame.

The sales guy suggested I look at the 1000rr or 954rr since the bikes are bigger in size. So I sat on the 1000rr.....looks the same as 600rr just sitting there but sitting on it......it was diffenently more comfortable.

Problem is this. I'm a newbie to this sport and I always said that I would never buy anything bigger the a 600. I have been told by numerous riders that a bigger bike may not be a bad idea as long as I control my speed and respect the power of the bike. Now it seems my size is dictating what size bike I should get.

Before I get the usual (and well deserved) advice about getting a old bike the reason why I'm looking at newer bikes is because the older ones don't appeal to me and I don' want to buy an old bike. I'm not getting the 1000 for the power or speed.....it would be more for the comfort.

So I have 2 questions: 1) if you were me would still get the 600 even though its not comfortable.

and

2) Assuming I do take various older experienced riders advice and get a 1000: Would you get a 1000rr or a Yamaha R1.

I know its a honda site but alot of you guys seem fairly level headed so thats why I'm asking here.Please help me make a good decision.

Thanks in advance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It seems to me that the post title and your dilemma have really nothing in common.
As far as size.. technically, most 600's are just as 'big' as most 1000's. It's only the newer, 600's that feel miniscule. Then again, the newer 1000's feel even smaller than the 600's.

It just seems like you want a 1000 like every other newb. Take it from me, Reborn and a lot of other, more experienced riders.. 1000's, even an older 1000.. has way more power than you can handle. Then again, it's not just the power that makes riders crash. There's a lot more to than that.. like turning.

 

Trust me when I tell you that I most certainly not a litre lover. I was very disappointed that I didn't fit on the 600 comfortably. I want a 600.......I don't really want a 1000.......I'm seriously leaning towards buying a 2000 Orange/Black...they are colors you don't see all the time and That was my true 1st love before I started two timing with lusting after the 600RR.

 

No current sportbike is going to be comfortable. They are race bike disguised as street bikes.

 

if yuo're buying a bike to look cool, you need to think long and hard about why you really want one...

don't listen to what the "sales" guy has to say, if you hadn't noticed...sales guys make sales...they could give a rats *** about you.

 

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then dont buy one. even 600 is pushing it.

 

Buying a bike ot be kewl is the last thing on the list. Buying an older F4 makes it cheaper and will keep content for a couple of years. And when I meant comfortable I mean not feeling like I can hang the bike around my neck kinda small.

 

******* dealers. That's pretty whack that they tried to sell you a liter bike as your first.

 

i have 3 friends that bought brand new 05 liter bikes. 2 r1's and 1 gixxer 1000, 2 of them it was there first bike, and the other was there second bike. all 3 crashed in a period of 3 months of purchase. the power of a 1000 will make you small, unless you weigh 400+ pounds IMO. before they crashed i hung with them on my 05 r6. only on straights and mashing out will they get me. other then that 600 will do.

 

The litres are more comfy for big guys? I dunno about that, but they are a bit better for the little guys, for some reason. Thinner tanks so little guys like me can flat-foot them. I think the dudes at the dealer were trying to push you into something big for no reason other than making some money. FYI the 600RR's seating position will hunch even little guys over the bars, so try the other 600s and see how you like them.

 

SV1000S, full-fairing, jetblack

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It is a beautiful bike, I'll grant you that.

Would have gotten one if I wasn't looking for a big change.

 

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just get the 1000 if you're more comfortable on it. If you can ride responsibly with the liter bike, then get it. I have a few friends who bought liter bikes as their first and they're fine. You should be fine as long as you know your limit and take things baby step. I'd personally take a 1000RR over the R1. BUt i am a honda loyalist. the R1 is fking sweet though.

PS : take the MSF course!!!!

 

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