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Old May 12, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Default oil pressure gauge vs. oil level gauge...which is better for my situation?

ok i have narrowed it down to my piston rings aren't in perfect shape......now i daily drive my car and i have to drive up to upstate new york (3 hr. drive) next week......i check my oil everyday before i start it.......i'm trying to keep my motor for as long as i can without it seriously being damaged...

Now i have searched for info on the gauges and it sounds like the pressure gauge will be good for me.......i want to be able to see if i have enough oil while i'm driving, especially on the highway. last week i was on the highway and my motor was cutting off at 5500 due to lack of oil. I don't want this to happen again. Now i've had a couple of people tell me that a pressure gauge is useless for my problem...they said by the time the pressure gauge would drop its basically the same thing as the dummy light...too late.....is this true or not?....any help would be greatly appreciated
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Old May 12, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Old May 12, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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I had an oil pressure gauge on my car. I had a constant drip of oil from a turbo feed and the psi kept going down - curious, I pulled over and was glad I did.

If your oil pressure drops as quick as whoever told you, then your motor is probably fucked anyways.

oil pressure gauge = essential
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Old May 13, 2005 | 05:19 AM
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get an oil pressure guage.... seeing i have never heard of a "oil level guage", that is your only option....
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Old May 13, 2005 | 06:11 AM
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Here is what I dont understand....why are you driving your car that cuts off from lack of oil???
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Old May 13, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get an oil pressure guage.... seeing i have never heard of a "oil level guage", that is your only option.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've never heard of one either. The only way I can imagine installing something like that if it does exist would be in the oil pan or to tap a hole in the oil pan. But I can't say that I have heard of such a product.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 06:20 AM
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i have an oil level guage. its this long stick in the engine bay with 2 dots on it. i guess it must be JDM,
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Old May 13, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IHateJDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an oil level guage. its this long stick in the engine bay with 2 dots on it. i guess it must be JDM, </TD></TR></TABLE>

I gotta get me one of those.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by specv5150 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is what I dont understand....why are you driving your car that cuts off from lack of oil??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

This is what I want to know.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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I am sure a oil presure gauge would help just a bit. My wifes Rodeo dummy light didnt come on until I had less than one qrt of oil in the engine out of what 5 1/2 maybe. So I am sure you can observe a drop in oil pressure more closely with an aftermarket gauge but you should be more concerned in why your car is burning/losing that much oil. I wouldnt drive that 20 minutes away to the store let alone 3 hour road trip.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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never ever heard of a oil LEVEL gauge.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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Well..i used the all mighty search button before i posted this...and maybe you guys should too..i found a couple of people talking about an oil LEVEL gauge..and one guy had it...and yes they did have to tap the oil pan.

if i check my oil everyday i am ok..it doesn't leak...theres no tapping ..and it smokes lightly once vtec kicks in...when it cut off...i was on some lazy man neglectful ish and didn't check my oil for like 4 or 5 days before that and that includes letting vtec kick in and running it hard a couple of times.

Basically my question is: will an oil pressure gauge be that accurate to show me when i have lost oil while i am driving and what not?
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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if you are telling us to search and you found a thing known as an oil level gauge, then what more needs to be asked. go buy it and tap it
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B20vtecNJcoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well..i used the all mighty search button before i posted this...and maybe you guys should too..i found a couple of people talking about an oil LEVEL gauge..and one guy had it...and yes they did have to tap the oil pan.

if i check my oil everyday i am ok..it doesn't leak...theres no tapping ..and it smokes lightly once vtec kicks in...when it cut off...i was on some lazy man neglectful ish and didn't check my oil for like 4 or 5 days before that and that includes letting vtec kick in and running it hard a couple of times.

Basically my question is: will an oil pressure gauge be that accurate to show me when i have lost oil while i am driving and what not?</TD></TR></TABLE>


HAHAHAHAHA...

See this is why I love honda-tech... everyone's an expert but doesn't know ****...

YES there is such thing as an oil level guage... They're factory equipment in THOUSANDS of cars...

I don't know how accurate they are from the aftermarket while the car is running though... as depending on the RPM there could be a lesser or greater amount of oil actually sitting in the pan...

My dad's porsche had one stock but it only worked while the car was not running.
Once running you rely on the pressure guage to indicate any abnormalities.

Long story short you probobly want a pressure guage... although as mentioned the oil light in a civic should be only for oil pressure... so if the pressure is low or dips that light should pop on. However there's a good chance it doesn't come on half as fast as a guage would read it.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HAHAHAHAHA...

See this is why I love honda-tech... everyone's an expert but doesn't know ****...

YES there is such thing as an oil level guage... They're factory equipment in THOUSANDS of cars...</TD></TR></TABLE>

i don't know ****? okay, i guess being in the automotive industry for 15 years doesn't qualify for much here. yes, porches have oil level lights, because they have an oil tank. you cannot do this with a honda.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by specv5150 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you are telling us to search and you found a thing known as an oil level gauge, then what more needs to be asked. go buy it and tap it </TD></TR></TABLE>

When i was reading on the level gauge...they said you have to tap the oil pan..the pressure gauge plugs into where the sensor is in the back of the block.....sounds easier to do the pressure gauge. but more importantly i want to know which one is better for what i need while i'm moving in my car?
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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tapping the pan will allow you to get oil temp, not necessarily the amount of oil you have in the car. this is the way i have done it for years.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tapping the pan will allow you to get oil temp, not necessarily the amount of oil you have in the car. this is the way i have done it for years.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah fo pressure, you would want to either buy a tee for the oil sending unit or a oil filter sandwich adapter.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i don't know ****? okay, i guess being in the automotive industry for 15 years doesn't qualify for much here. yes, porches have oil level lights, because they have an oil tank. you cannot do this with a honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So an arm with a float would not work in an oil pan huh?

NO being in ANY industry for 15 years doesn't mean anything... do you know how many people suck at their jobs?

I'm not saying you do... but 15 years experience doesn't mean anything if you suck at whatever you do.

Are you ASE certified?

http://www.csaa.com/global/art....html

aaa seems to know about oil level sensors.

Granted they're few and far between (mainly because they're useless once the cars running) but they do exist and if there were a demand for them it wouldn't be hard to make one or install one...

I'd bet that the renault one could be adapted to other cars... I'm pretty sure they have an oilpan not tank... although I'm not sure.

Like I said.. float on an articulating arm... like a toilet bowl float.

Not trying to insult anyone... it's just funny how EVERYONE jumps on someone saying something doesn't exist and it does... although I don't know that they exist in the aftermarket... but if there were a demand it wouldn't be hard to make one.

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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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the original poster needs something that works while his car is running. also, if it only works when the car is off, then why add one to your car? the dipstick does the same damn thing, and works just as well when the car is off.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IHateJDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the original poster needs something that works while his car is running. also, if it only works when the car is off, then why add one to your car? the dipstick does the same damn thing, and works just as well when the car is off. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree... that's why I also recomended the pressure guage...

The level guages are all but useless... I never really got why porsche even bothered... but I'm guessing it's because the majority of owners are NOT going to check their own oil...

And that's probobly the reason no one (that I know of) produces an oil level guage... It could be done realatively accurate nowadays with a computer that calculated what RPM the car was at and what level should remain in the pan... but it would most likely be prohibitavely costly.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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yeah, well porsches come with a lot of things that are unnecessary, but cool anyways. us honda drivers need a paper towel to get our oil level where the porsche guys just need to check a guage.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So an arm with a float would not work in an oil pan huh?

NO being in ANY industry for 15 years doesn't mean anything... do you know how many people suck at their jobs?

I'm not saying you do... but 15 years experience doesn't mean anything if you suck at whatever you do.

Are you ASE certified?

http://www.csaa.com/global/art....html

aaa seems to know about oil level sensors.

Granted they're few and far between (mainly because they're useless once the cars running) but they do exist and if there were a demand for them it wouldn't be hard to make one or install one...

I'd bet that the renault one could be adapted to other cars... I'm pretty sure they have an oilpan not tank... although I'm not sure.

Like I said.. float on an articulating arm... like a toilet bowl float.

Not trying to insult anyone... it's just funny how EVERYONE jumps on someone saying something doesn't exist and it does... although I don't know that they exist in the aftermarket... but if there were a demand it wouldn't be hard to make one.

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WTF do you see ANY mention of oil level gauges in that url you posted? I only saw how to checl your oil from the DIPSTICK
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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i mean i check my oil everyday before i leave.....last week i just got a little lazy.....and that was the first time that (cut off at 5500) happened to me. if i'm on the highway for a long period of time...it still makes no sense to pull over and check...by that time your motor was running for a while so it is gonna take forever to get an accurate measure. I would have to sit there for like 15-30 min. to let it all drain down to the pan. I'd rather be driving and see the pressure drop and just know "ok pull over and throw in this much or that much oil" and keep it moving.
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