Well, hit the dyno today and turned out a dissapointing dyno. First my setup is...
OBD0 B16
LS cable tranny
AEBS IM
BBK 62mm TB
Short ram intake
CTR N1 crank pulley
Fidanza 8lb flywheel
NKK clutch
Megan stainless 4-2-1 header
Magnaflow stainless 2.5 catback

With that said I was hoping for about 145, but turned out to be 114.45hp and 91 ft lb trq in 3rd gear. The gears are too long to where it won't even make peak power.
I had been leaning towards boosting again like my past 2 cars (both D series). Or should I swap out trannies and continue building N/A.
Any suggestions?

 

post up the graph with the air/fuel and do a tune up first.

 

so how much money did you waste on the dyno?

 

Dyno, free passes, I know the shop owner and they wanted to see what it made as well.

Driving the car, you'd never know the # is that low. Sounds beautiful, runs perfectly smooth, no cel, good compression. A/F mix was perfect.
Motor came from HMO, it is fine. Looking at my engine bay is picturesque, I know it has alot to do with the tranny, but I had no idea it would turn out like that.
They made 3 passes on the dyno...
#1 113hp 90tq
#2 114.4 90tq
#3 113.15 90tq

 

This just ws brough to my attention.
I bought the motor as a long block, I had the tranny from my first setup. The longblock came from an auto B16. Would the auto B16 cams explain alot of it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Autoworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This just ws brough to my attention.
I bought the motor as a long block, I had the tranny from my first setup. The longblock came from an auto B16. Would the auto B16 cams explain alot of it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Auto B16 cams are the weakest cams evar

Might want to step up to some B16A2 / GSR cams. Why don't you just swap out that tranny? B16 trannys are so fun

Have an AFR graph to post up along with the dyno graph? What is your ignition timing at?

 

Ignition timing is stock
Air fuel was pretty consistent at 13-14

I am definately going to change cams, I just need to find the best ones for a stock block. I am also trying to find a B16 tranny at a decent price

 

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Air fuel was pretty consistent at 13-14

I am definately going to change cams, I just need to find the best ones for a stock block. I am also trying to find a B16 tranny at a decent price</TD></TR></TABLE>

The safest cams to run with your valvetrain are GSR cams IMO

 

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The safest cams to run with your valvetrain are GSR cams IMO</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. GSR cams are often overlooked but are actually quite nice. As for the cams "explaining a lot of it"... They are weaker, but I honestly can't see them making the engine loose THAT much power. Please also keep in mind, rumor has it that the auto valve springs will not stand up to the abuse of the manuals. I haven't seen this first hand, but have heard it many times. Proceed with caution is my advice. If it were me, the valvetrain and cams would be addressed at the same time. Compression also should be bumped if you plan to stay NA. You will need ~11.5 on a B16 to run any "decent" cams.

 

I will be changing the cams along with the springs to either CTR, S2S1, or BC. I will run it again after that. I went out and drove it this morning and true enough the gears are extremely long, but comparing this car to my last turbo SOHC, this car seems faster. But the dyno shows just the opposite

 

ooo def get rid of thoes cams that has to be the problem... i just dynod my i/h/e b16 with y1(love that tranny) at 139hp 105tq

 

i dont think auto b16 cams will make you lose 20-25whp. whats your compression on the cylinders? did u do the leak down test?

 

Just my opinion....B16's are a waste without boost. Yeah yeah, blah blah near perfect R/S ratio I don't care, they suck without boost. Torqueless like just about all other hondas not that mines better.

 

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i know its just an opinion but i think a b16 is one of the sickest motors ever lol.. i love my b16... with or without boost... but thatdoesnt mean i dont plan on boosting it also

 

Well, I have a set of GSR cams and valvesprings sitting in the car, I just need to get them installed. Now that I have been driving the car (about twice a week), I notice that the VTEC crossover is a little weak. I'll see how it does after the install.