Best D-series Engine to turbo? Please Help!
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Best D-series Engine to turbo? Please Help!
Ok, heres the deal i just bought an xs power intercolled t3/t4 turbo kit. Please spare me your comments about this kit, i know people with the same kit and it does fine. Anyways I just wanted to know which engine in the d-series is best to turbo, which one can handle the most boost on stock internals, which will perform the best under boost. I know alot of you are going to tell me to go b-series but thats not in the question. I have searched several times and did not find the info i'm looking for. I simply want to know what d-series engine can handle the most boost on stock internals and which performes best with a turbo. Any info will be a huge help.
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Re: Best D-series Engine to turbo? Please Help! (Quad-Damge)
If I built another D series, it would be a full d16z6 with a y8 intake manifold and ls throttle body.
The y8 seems to be a great motor, but the weak oil pumps put everything in jepordy (sp?). You can put a z6 oil pump/pickup/pan on the y8, but then there isn't a spot for the dipstick.
The y8 seems to be a great motor, but the weak oil pumps put everything in jepordy (sp?). You can put a z6 oil pump/pickup/pan on the y8, but then there isn't a spot for the dipstick.
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Re: Best D-series Engine to turbo? Please Help! (DaZman69)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaZman69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a6 block-has the strongest mains
y8 head-quench design is much stronger/better then z6</TD></TR></TABLE>
z6 head flows better
y8 head-quench design is much stronger/better then z6</TD></TR></TABLE>
z6 head flows better
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Re: Best D-series Engine to turbo? Please Help! (Civicman86)
ive taken that into account.
nobody has proven it...just couple pictures is all i've seen
even if it does flow better, i highly doubt its by much. Ill take the strength of the quench area over the little bit of flow, you could just P & P the y8 if it was a concern
nobody has proven it...just couple pictures is all i've seen
even if it does flow better, i highly doubt its by much. Ill take the strength of the quench area over the little bit of flow, you could just P & P the y8 if it was a concern
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The DOHC ZC is a D-series right? I have talked to my local tuner "Tuners Edge" and he suggested the DOHC ZC. Would that be better than a Z6? Also how much power can the z6 handle on stock internals, what about the DOHC ZC?
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Re: Best D-series Engine to turbo? Please Help! (88_T-Rex)
dohc zc would be the best way to go, but if your sticking with sohc's go with the z6 because of the better oil pump. Piston and rod wise there all weak, get some eagles and srps and you wont have to do a rebuild a month after boosting your stock d16.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doubleA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dohc zc would be the best way to go</TD></TR></TABLE>why would it be the way to go? because of the 2 cams? because the rods appear to be a larer size?
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Re: Best D-series Engine to turbo? Please Help! (DaZman69)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaZman69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
nobody has proven it...just couple pictures is all i've seen
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u sir....... dont know what u talking about
if u have a Y8 head next to a Z6, it will make sense very fast to you if u know little about flow behavior
the Z6 head has a better port, period... the runner is more direct, and the divider its more higher and provides a better separation and velocity for the air to enter the combustion area and create a good and even combustion
the Y8 has a very poor runner, with very short divider, that causes a turbulence and the flow doesnt enter the combustion chamber as good as we would like it to be
i had a link to a page that explained it with pictures and good details...
too bad i cant find it...
nobody has proven it...just couple pictures is all i've seen
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u sir....... dont know what u talking about
if u have a Y8 head next to a Z6, it will make sense very fast to you if u know little about flow behavior
the Z6 head has a better port, period... the runner is more direct, and the divider its more higher and provides a better separation and velocity for the air to enter the combustion area and create a good and even combustion
the Y8 has a very poor runner, with very short divider, that causes a turbulence and the flow doesnt enter the combustion chamber as good as we would like it to be
i had a link to a page that explained it with pictures and good details...
too bad i cant find it...
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Re: Best D-series Engine to turbo? Please Help! (USDM 4G VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDM 4G VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
u sir....... dont know what u talking about
if u have a Y8 head next to a Z6, it will make sense very fast to you if u know little about flow behavior
the Z6 head has a better port, period... the runner is more direct, and the divider its more higher and provides a better separation and velocity for the air to enter the combustion area and create a good and even combustion
the Y8 has a very poor runner, with very short divider, that causes a turbulence and the flow doesnt enter the combustion chamber as good as we would like it to be
i had a link to a page that explained it with pictures and good details...
too bad i cant find it...
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PICTURES....thats all you have is ****** pictures. Wheres the flow test??? I've seen them close up front many times. I bet the z6 does flow a little better. But its nothing that cant be fixed with a good P&P job. The y8 has a better quench area design. When you find a way to cheaply improve that area on a z6 you let me know.
ill take a little bit of strength over a little bit of flow anyday. Stop going by what your told, and find **** out by yourself. ****** internet mechanic.
u sir....... dont know what u talking about
if u have a Y8 head next to a Z6, it will make sense very fast to you if u know little about flow behavior
the Z6 head has a better port, period... the runner is more direct, and the divider its more higher and provides a better separation and velocity for the air to enter the combustion area and create a good and even combustion
the Y8 has a very poor runner, with very short divider, that causes a turbulence and the flow doesnt enter the combustion chamber as good as we would like it to be
i had a link to a page that explained it with pictures and good details...
too bad i cant find it...
</TD></TR></TABLE>PICTURES....thats all you have is ****** pictures. Wheres the flow test??? I've seen them close up front many times. I bet the z6 does flow a little better. But its nothing that cant be fixed with a good P&P job. The y8 has a better quench area design. When you find a way to cheaply improve that area on a z6 you let me know.
ill take a little bit of strength over a little bit of flow anyday. Stop going by what your told, and find **** out by yourself. ****** internet mechanic.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ryan89crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would it be the way to go? because of the 2 cams? because the rods appear to be a larer size? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly. And more torque
Exactly. And more torque
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Re: (doubleA)
do you know why two cams are better? without vtec theres really no advantage to having two cams vs one. New amg mercedes motors are sohc.....
The only advantage two having two cams is tuning.
If you have a vtec motor, the main advantage to DOHC is that vtec is on the intake and exhaust.
d-series twin cam head
The only advantage two having two cams is tuning.
If you have a vtec motor, the main advantage to DOHC is that vtec is on the intake and exhaust.
d-series twin cam head
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Re: Best D-series Engine to turbo? Please Help! (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The D16Z6 is what you want. It holds the record for the most power on stock D Series block as of right now. </TD></TR></TABLE>
what is the record for the strongest d series actually ??
what is the record for the strongest d series actually ??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The D16Z6 is what you want. It holds the record for the most power on stock D Series block as of right now. </TD></TR></TABLE>
most i've heard of is 302whp
z6 is probably the best all around motor as a whole. Put if you could mix and match, other d-series motors have stronger parts.
most i've heard of is 302whp
z6 is probably the best all around motor as a whole. Put if you could mix and match, other d-series motors have stronger parts.
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Re: (DaZman69)
rrussell -- 418whp 314wtq
D16z6 built bottom end and head -- T3/T4 54 trim .63AR -- 22psi and 70 shot -- Haltech w/ 72lb. injectors
http://www.turbod16.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=2090
D16z6 built bottom end and head -- T3/T4 54 trim .63AR -- 22psi and 70 shot -- Haltech w/ 72lb. injectors
http://www.turbod16.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=2090
