After market toe adjustor for rear trailing arm
Can anyone recomend a good toe adjuster kit for the rear of a 91 civic si? the only thing i have found is made by spc, and seems to be overpriced. Thankyou for any recomendation or links
We have some extra prototype pieces we made during a production run for our E Prepared SCCA race car that I would be willing to sell to anyone interested. I'm not sure what other companies making these pieces charge, but I could sell the remaining rear toe links I have for $175 for a set w/ rod ends. I am not able to get any kind of deal on the rod ends, so I would sell the machined pieces alone for $130, and let the buyer obtain the 1/2" L+R hand rod ends themselves if there was interest in that...

We also have a few left over prototype delrin lower front damper pivots. I have a few left that I would be willing to sell to anyone interested in a set. They should work on any 88-91 Civic or CRX and include the delrin bushings and hardened steel pivots. $45 a set for anyone interested...........

We also have a few left over prototype delrin lower front damper pivots. I have a few left that I would be willing to sell to anyone interested in a set. They should work on any 88-91 Civic or CRX and include the delrin bushings and hardened steel pivots. $45 a set for anyone interested...........
has anyone considered the difference between adjusting compensator arm LENGTH and PIVOT POINT.
adjusting both changes static toe, but with an adjustable arm, youre changing the length. it changes the lever ratio which i believe affects the dynamic toe curve. adjusting the pivot point, just moves the arc but doesnt change the arc.
im sure its nice to be able to adjust both for the sake of changing the rear suspension geometry, but i think it would be a bad oversight to consider an adjustable toe link (compensator arm) as an easier way to adjust rear toe.
maybe im wrong tho. multilink rear suspension is kinda confusing to me...
adjusting both changes static toe, but with an adjustable arm, youre changing the length. it changes the lever ratio which i believe affects the dynamic toe curve. adjusting the pivot point, just moves the arc but doesnt change the arc.
im sure its nice to be able to adjust both for the sake of changing the rear suspension geometry, but i think it would be a bad oversight to consider an adjustable toe link (compensator arm) as an easier way to adjust rear toe.
maybe im wrong tho. multilink rear suspension is kinda confusing to me...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has anyone considered the difference between adjusting compensator arm LENGTH and PIVOT POINT.
adjusting both changes static toe, but with an adjustable arm, youre changing the length. i believe affects the dynamic toe curve. adjusting the pivot point, just moves the arc but doesnt change the arc.
im sure its nice to be able to adjust both for the sake of changing the rear suspension geometry, but i think it would be a bad oversight to consider an adjustable toe link (compensator arm) as an easier way to adjust rear toe.
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You are correct. Using these arms allows adjustment to rear bump steer to an extent. A longer overall arm length produces less toe change throughout suspension movement while a shorter arm length produces more change. The beauty of these adj links is that you can set the inner pivot to either extreme of the slot in the chassis or anywhere in between to alter the overall length of the compensator arm.
Spend some time on an alignment rack and change the length of the arm, then move the rear suspension throughout its range of travel and you will see first hand the changes that it makes! What is best is completely dependant upon personal preference of handling characteristics of your car, but this is one more way to fine tune the way your car feels in transitional maneuvers.
adjusting both changes static toe, but with an adjustable arm, youre changing the length. i believe affects the dynamic toe curve. adjusting the pivot point, just moves the arc but doesnt change the arc.
im sure its nice to be able to adjust both for the sake of changing the rear suspension geometry, but i think it would be a bad oversight to consider an adjustable toe link (compensator arm) as an easier way to adjust rear toe.
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You are correct. Using these arms allows adjustment to rear bump steer to an extent. A longer overall arm length produces less toe change throughout suspension movement while a shorter arm length produces more change. The beauty of these adj links is that you can set the inner pivot to either extreme of the slot in the chassis or anywhere in between to alter the overall length of the compensator arm.
Spend some time on an alignment rack and change the length of the arm, then move the rear suspension throughout its range of travel and you will see first hand the changes that it makes! What is best is completely dependant upon personal preference of handling characteristics of your car, but this is one more way to fine tune the way your car feels in transitional maneuvers.
I just installed a set made mny years ago by Suspension Techniques. I bought them long ago from an engineer who worked there. I don't know if they are still available.
As mentioned above, I installed mine with the inner pivot bolts in the furthest possible point to the center of the car so the arm becomes the longest and thus in theory the dynamic change should be the least but I don't recall how much length or functional effect this will have . Off the top of my head, it might be about 3/4 inch in length.
As mentioned above, I installed mine with the inner pivot bolts in the furthest possible point to the center of the car so the arm becomes the longest and thus in theory the dynamic change should be the least but I don't recall how much length or functional effect this will have . Off the top of my head, it might be about 3/4 inch in length.
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I dont believe so. If I remember right, you can change the bushing to spherical types, but you cannot replace the entire arm. Meaning you could use spherical bearings in the stock compensator arms, but not replace them with a completely different arm like these.
I dont believe so. If I remember right, you can change the bushing to spherical types, but you cannot replace the entire arm. Meaning you could use spherical bearings in the stock compensator arms, but not replace them with a completely different arm like these.
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Nope, but they are F Prod legal.
Nope, but they are F Prod legal.
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